What's your opinion of barndominiums? Similar supply issues? Resale? Quality?
i had the leaky window happen with them but I made them fix them all. It took some serious harassment. The design studio lady was also a total ***** and ruined that part of the experience for us. I didn’t even go to our last appt.
I'm not a fan, but I don't hate them.
Other than bricks & shingles it takes the same materials. Interior finish is still interior finish. I don't build the buildings, so I couldn't tell you on total cost but I'd bet it isn't as cheap as some might believe when compared to a conventional home. Wouldn't know on resale either. I've never owned one, but I know you can't get your money back on a metal shop building if you sell the property you built it on.
Quality is just like everything else. It depends on who does the work and what kind of interior finish you install. Once you get the metal building up, interior studs up and insulated and drywall installed, it's just another house. You can do plastic showers or full ceiling to floor ceramic. Screw in cabinets or custom built on site. Formica or granite, etc, etc, etc.. You're only limited by your creativeness and your budget.
That's money and not materials.
Completely different deal.
I've hedged zinc dust before. eleven truck loads or 440,000 lbs. Hedging materials is different than hedging $'s. You also have to consider when you hedge, it's still a gamble.
I wouldn't sign it either as a home buyer.
I wouldn't try to build a house right now though. People can't expect their builder to lose money, and I'd think they wouldn't want that anyway. You have a supplier, of either labor or materials, that's losing money on your project, you need to be very careful. You're about to get what you're paying for.
edit - I'll also add, if as a consumer you're expecting someone to give you a hard number on something that goes together like a home in the current, and they do, you should be concerned. I'm new to this, but I know guys that have been doing this for 30 years, and they can't tell you what it's going to cost to build something right now. Oh, they can probably get between 35%, maybe, but until it's bought and invoiced you don't know what the materials are going to cost, or if your sub is going to still be working for you next week. Building anything is expensive right now, and it's hard because of chasing materials.
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Back in the day, my folks had two construction companies. One union. One nonunion.
Union was for big budget contracts. Govt. stuff. DOD/Fort Knox. Housing authority of Louisville.
The other was nonunion. That was for smaller jobs that didn't require union labor. Both the above (DOD and HAL) required union.
But back then, they sometimes got jobs for cost plus. That took into account sliding materials prices, etc. Otherwise, the bid was the bid. Go over budget? The latter meant he ate the difference.
The problem i have seen is that they are quick to raise the prices when the cost goes up but when the cost of materials goes down they wont adjust the cost if they are into the project, i understand that prices fluxuates from time to time but the builder should show their clients where the extra cost is going not just say it is going up and no way of showing where.
Oh I do know! I just completed a full gut master bath remodel and that shizz was WAY expensive. I went through one bad builder and broke the contract before they ever set foot inside with a tool (they lied to us several times and we caught them doing it). Fortunately they exceeded the time allotment in their own contract, so they didn’t fight it too hard.
On the second time around, we went through a national aggregator to source a highly rated local contractor. Before we even signed the contract, we had most of the major components on the ground in our shop. We designed the space and spec’d all the materials ourselves. We did however solicit the builder’s input on everything and agreed to some minor changes for cost and efficiency reasons. We made no change requests after the contract was signed.
When it came time to fulfill the contract, everything we were to supply materials wise was already on site. All they had to supply was the raw materials (lumber, drywall, mud, tape, etc.). We even provided space inside our shop for them to leave their trailer and work. We were and I quote “the easy button of clients”.
They still came in $1,800 over budget, but that’s because a wall we were having them tear out that shouldn’t have been a load bearing wall, was. It was easy to see where the extra cost went based on how much lumber and time they had up in the attic.
Overall we were VERY satisfied with their honesty, integrity and work product. They were happy with us and everyone agreed it was a good experience. After we paid the balance due, we handed out individual bonuses to the workmen for their efforts and customer service skills. After we posted positive reviews online, the company owners sent us a very nice hand written thank you card, with a gift card to Target enclosed.
If only all our other contracting jobs went that well!
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even worse; they hire people who aren't even americans. all hail the God: profit
Everybody has about doubled their prices. Some will regret it for gouging.
Some can't help it because materials have gone up.
My heat and air guy was $6500 for a unit installed. Now $9500-10k Don't think the machines went up that much.
Tile guy doubled but paying the Mexicans the same.
Tree trimmer doubled. Got somebody else. did a better job at way cheaper price.
$85 plumbers and electricians now $125-150hr.
Roofer went up 50%
Even though I do the sheetrock and paint myself the stuff has doubled.
Some can't help it because materials have gone up.
My heat and air guy was $6500 for a unit installed. Now $9500-10k Don't think the machines went up that much.
Tile guy doubled but paying the Mexicans the same.
Tree trimmer doubled. Got somebody else. did a better job at way cheaper price.
$85 plumbers and electricians now $125-150hr.
Roofer went up 50%
Even though I do the sheetrock and paint myself the stuff has doubled.
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