Mercury in Okla Lakes

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http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100708_12_A1_Boeoso39573

OKLAHOMA CITY — Catch a large striped bass in the Broken Bow Reservoir and you might as well throw it back. The bass isn't safe to eat, according to a Mercury in Fish study released Wednesday.

Sixteen state lakes have some species of fish with mercury levels above what is considered safe for unlimited consumption, according to the report released by the Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality.

Two of the 16 lakes had "do not eat" advisories for certain species.

The advisory on striped — or hybrid — bass at Broken Bow includes consumption by both sensitive and general populations.

Sensitive populations include women of child-bearing age and children 15 and younger.

The study also advises sensitive populations not to eat walleye or white bass caught at Broken Bow.

Sensitive populations also should not eat white bass caught from McGee Creek Reservoir in Atoka County.

Jay Wright, manager of DEQ customer services, said the mercury concentrations in fish were consistently higher in Southeastern Oklahoma lakes, but officials are not entirely sure why.

Specific advisories on how much of which species of fish is safe to eat may be viewed at tulsaworld.com/deqfish for the following lakes: Atoka Lake, Boomer Lake, Broken Bow Reservoir, Coalgate City Lake, Draper Lake, Elmer Thomas Lake, Hugo Lake, Kaw Reservoir, Lake Heyburn, McAlester City Lake, McGee Creek Reservoir, Pine Creek Reservoir, Quanah Parker Lake, Rush Lake, Sardis Lake and Wister Lake.

Whitefish is an excellent source of protein, Wright said, but people should know how much fish is safe to eat from particular lakes.

"The advice we give to people needs to balance the risks versus the benefits," he said. "We want people to continue to fish. We want them to eat the fish they catch."

Mercury is a neurotoxin and is especially dangerous to developing fetuses and children. It can interfere with thinking, memory, attention span, fine motor and visual spatial skills.

Ninety-nine percent of human exposure to mercury comes from eating fish.

Predator fish species have the highest levels of mercury because they are the biggest, officials said. They include largemouth, smallmouth, spotted, hybrid, striped or white bass, walleye, saugeye and flathead catfish.

The safest bet is to eat smaller, low-mercury fish, Wright said.

Most restaurant fish is safe to eat because it is farm-raised, DEQ officials said. Exceptions include shark, swordfish, tile fish and king mackerel.

What causes mercury to accumulate in fish is a complex issue, he said.

According to the study, about one-third of mercury comes from natural sources like volcanoes, geothermal areas, mineral deposits, forest and range fires.

About two-thirds of mercury is believed to come from man-made sources, namely coal-fired power plants, industry, medical and municipal waste incinerators.

Coal-fired power plants in the state are located in the eastern and southeastern parts of the state in Panama, Hugo, Oologah, Fort Gibson and Chouteau.

Southeastern Oklahoma is also downwind from Texas, which has more than a dozen coal-fired plants.

Wright said sources don't have to be local. They can come from the region or even as far away as Russia, India and China.

"You can't just blame the local power plant," Wright said.

Lakes such as Oologah and Sooner are situated near power plants in other parts of the state and had low mercury levels.

Mercury sinks to the bottom of a lake and is converted to methylmercury. The rate of the conversion is affected by water quality.

Methylmercury gets into algae and plankton and is then consumed throughout the food chain.

Mercury emission regulation is being considered by the Environmental Protection Agency and the Oklahoma Air Quality Council, Wright said.

Bud Scott, director of the Oklahoma Chapter of the Sierra Club, said that Oklahoma is one of the few states that doesn't have comprehensive mercury regulations — but should.

"These are pretty serious levels for them to issue do not eat advisories," he said.

Blaming mercury in fish in Oklahoma on a global cause is a "typical DEQ response," Scott said, because it is commonly believed that coal-fired power plants are one of the biggest mercury contributors.

Scott said he didn't have much confidence the Air Quality Council would address mercury.

"They're dominated by industry representatives," he said.

The lakes with low mercury levels in fish include: Arbuckle, Eucha, Guthrie, Fuqua, Oologah, Sooner, Texoma, Wes Watkins, Arcadia, Fort Gibson, Hulah, Hudson, Ponca, Spavinaw, Thunderbird, Zoo Lake (Oklahoma City), Copan, Grand, Lawtonka, Murray, Robert S. Kerr, Tenkiller and Tom Steed.
 

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I have somewhat of an issue with the "mercury" thing.
I do stack emissions testing for a big Okla Utility as part of my job.
Two years ago, the EPA came out with a ruling that said "mercury" was an issue, and by a certain date, all coal plants would be required to monitor and controll the "mercury emissons".
We spent millions of dollars putting in testing systems, and monitoring the emissions, reporting them along with the people that manufacture the equipment.
After two years, the EPA, abandoned the quest as the emissions were so low as to not be an issue.

Then all of a sudden, we come out with these new guidelines.
Where is the mercury coming from?? It can't be from Coal plants, or else Keystone at Tulsa is not involved?? They are directly down stream from Kaw???
If Kaw is a Drop-out (carried in the river current and dropped out and retained in the lake) where is it coming from??

I need to obtain a copy of the ruling, as it was stated the testing was going on for two years previous to now??
If blues from Kaw are so deadly to eat, when are the people eating them all of the time (me) going to die from mecury poisoning?? there are set medical limits of how much the human body can absorb, retain and then die.
I haven't seen these posted, and I've been looking really hard.


So let me think about this another way....the Blues and sandbass in kaw can't be eaten, but there is no warning for those caught below the dam, or any where below the dam in the river??

I'm starting to smell rotten fish.......

This sounds like another way to get Cap and Tax passed????
 

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Lakes such as Oologah and Sooner are situated near power plants in other parts of the state and had low mercury levels.
Imagine that.......a lake that has a coal plant on the property has a low mercury content.
Guess where sooner lake gets it water to keep it full?
Kaw lake. Sooner does not have any natural runoff. All of the water in Sooner is pumped from the Arkansas river which is down stream from Kaw lake.
I'm still having a problem about this??
 

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Think about this. The article said "Methylmercury gets into algae and plankton and is then consumed throughout the food chain."

Now just exactly why isn't all the fish affected instead of just some species?

I call ******** and I always have. For the record I heard years ago the wildlife department (I'm pretty sure) state that the mercury in McGee Creek was naturally occurring. I'd trust them far more than any other state of federal agency. And I'd wager that about 90% of what they measure is naturally occurring.
 

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Think about this. The article said "Methylmercury gets into algae and plankton and is then consumed throughout the food chain."

Now just exactly why isn't all the fish affected instead of just some species?

I call ******** and I always have. QUOTE]

The claim on Bluecat and sandbass/hybrid is that they are on top of the food chain, and all of the little fish they eat contribute to the amount of mercury in their bodies.
Largmouth bass are included, but the study says the largemouth can be eaten twice a month.
I would have thought the largmouth was in the top of the food chain as well??
Flatheads only eat live food, large mouth and crappie only eat live food, as well as the targeted fish?? crappie are not included?? What is up with this???
 

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Think about this. The article said "Methylmercury gets into algae and plankton and is then consumed throughout the food chain."

Now just exactly why isn't all the fish affected instead of just some species?

I call ******** and I always have. QUOTE]

The claim on Bluecat and sandbass/hybrid is that they are on top of the food chain, and all of the little fish they eat contribute to the amount of mercury in their bodies.
Largmouth bass are included, but the study says the largemouth can be eaten twice a month.
I would have thought the largmouth was in the top of the food chain as well??
Flatheads only eat live food, large mouth and crappie only eat live food, as well as the targeted fish?? crappie are not included?? What is up with this???
You just made my point for me. Algae and plankton feed every fish in the lake in one way or another.

I also view the "danger levels" with an entire salt block. One part per quadzillion is dangerous and should be watched, regulated, etc., etc. to these clowns. They are going the same way with lead by the way. It's all about money and political control when you get to the bottom line I'm sure.
 

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It's all about money and political control when you get to the bottom line I'm sure.

Thats it, period.
Cap and tax, put fear into it, and here it goes.
I'm way below one of the conspirators type of people, but this one has me worried. We all got an email a year ago about how Obama was going to cut out sport fishing, and now, I'm wondering.
Haven't put on the tin hat yet, but still wondering.
 

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Dennisshoddy - Well stated. I also put little faith in ODEQ. I work in the environmental field as a wastewater consultatnt and many times the DEQ staff are not well versed. They just repeat what they have been told and do not have good field experience.
 

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Dennisshoddy - Well stated. I also put little faith in ODEQ. I work in the environmental field as a wastewater consultatnt and many times the DEQ staff are not well versed. They just repeat what they have been told and do not have good field experience.

Its all falling into the same pattern. Just like the oil companies. Demonize them to justify passing new legislation that will tax us to pay for the socialist hand out. Mercury is a no issue a year ago, and now is a big enough issue to put a ban on eating fish?
Natural occuring I can understand. This crap I can't, and I don't have a clue who to contact to protest this.
The study has been going on for two years?
 

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