New Armor Piercing Ammo Ban in Oklahoma?

[rmark]

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Thats what I'd also try first. Light ball is not AP and I've ordered other ammo from them before without any problems.

 

[henschman]

Here is the Oklahoma armor piercing ammo ban:

21 O.S. Section 1289.20:

A. Except for the purpose of public safety or national security, it shall be unlawful to manufacture, cause to be manufactured, import, advertise for sale or sell within this state any restricted bullet as defined in Section 1289.19 of this title.

B. Any person convicted of violating subsection A of this section shall be guilty of a felony and shall be punished by a fine of not less than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00) nor more than Ten Thousand Dollars ($10,000.00), or by imprisonment in the State Penitentiary for not more than ten (10) years, or by both such fine and imprisonment.

21 O.S. Section 1289.21:

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to possess, carry upon his person, use or attempt to use against another person any restricted bullet as defined in Section 1289.19 of this title.

B. Any person convicted of violating subsection A of this section shall be guilty of a felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the State Penitentiary for not less than two (2) years nor more than ten (10) years. The sentence so imposed shall not be suspended.

21 O.S. Section 1289.19:

As used in Sections 1289.20 through 1289.22 of this title and Section 2 of this act:

1. "Restricted bullet" means a round or elongated missile with a core of less than sixty percent (60%) lead and having a fluorocarbon coating, which is designed to travel at a high velocity and is capable of penetrating body armor; and

2. "Body armor" means a vest or shirt of ten (10) plies or more of bullet resistant material as defined by the Office of Development, Testing and Dissemination, a division of the United States Department of Justice.

It is a very badly-worded law and is very narrow, as it only applies to bullets with a fluorocarbon coating (this appears to be a knee-jerk reaction to the old BS rumor about how spraying a normal bullet with teflon makes it an armor piercing, cop killing instrument of death). Almost all true AP ammo has a regular, uncoated copper or zinc jacket, and wouldn't fall under this restriction. It is still an infringement and needs to be repealed, but thankfully it doesn't have much impact on us. It is not a new law -- it was first enacted in 1982 (back when the media and antis were on a narrative about "cop killer bullets," etc.). Anyway, whoever is advising Sportsman's Guide on the law is way off base. 7.62x54 light ball doesn't even come close to falling under this statute.

 

[SoonerP226]

It has been a few years since I researched this, but my recollection is that Oklahoma statute mirrors the Federal statutes on ammunition--in effect, if you can sell it in the US, you can sell it in Oklahoma.

 

[henschman]

Nah, the OK statute isn't anything like the federal one.

 

[JonDough]

It's the government gettin scared of Oklahoma!!!

 

[berettaman]

I'm sure the way the libtards are good at rewriting history, Timmy McV used armour piercing bullits in the OKC bomb.

 

[ttownokie]

Here is the Oklahoma armor piercing ammo ban:

21 O.S. Section 1289.20:


21 O.S. Section 1289.21:


21 O.S. Section 1289.19:


It is a very badly-worded law and is very narrow, as it only applies to bullets with a fluorocarbon coating (this appears to be a knee-jerk reaction to the old BS rumor about how spraying a normal bullet with teflon makes it an armor piercing, cop killing instrument of death). Almost all true AP ammo has a regular, uncoated copper or zinc jacket, and wouldn't fall under this restriction. It is still an infringement and needs to be repealed, but thankfully it doesn't have much impact on us. It is not a new law -- it was first enacted in 1982 (back when the media and antis were on a narrative about "cop killer bullets," etc.). Anyway, whoever is advising Sportsman's Guide on the law is way off base. 7.62x54 light ball doesn't even come close to falling under this statute.

Most rifle/hunting/military cartridges will penetrate body armor. This needs repealed!

 

[Model 70]

I wonder hour many working man hours it took for that to make it into law? Oops, I implied something there, sorry.

 

[AKguy1985]

I have never had an issue ordering ammo from them. Weird

 

[henschman]

Most rifle/hunting/military cartridges will penetrate body armor. This needs repealed!

If you read the statute, it only applies to bullets with a fluorocarbon coating (like teflon). Bullets of this sort are very rare, so the statute doesn't actually prohibit very many things. But as I said before, it definitely needs to be repealed. It is all based on a BS media-fueled rumor from the 1980s which held that giving a normal handgun bullet a teflon coating would allow it to penetrate a cop vest. The opposite is actually true... teflon slightly deteriorates penetration of kevlar. The rumor is based on an experimental line of handgun ammo designed to provide greater penetration of car doors and glass. It used a brass bullet that wore out barrels faster than lead core ones, so they added the teflon coating to decrease barrel wear, and found that it caused the bullets to deflect less from hard barriers. It never had anything to do with aiding penetration of body armor. But the media took the "cop killer" narrative and ran with it, and it apparently had an impact of the idiots in the Oklahoma legislature in 1982.