Rancher in Nevada being harassed by the FEDS and confiscating his cattle

[uncle money bags]

Exactly my point subprep. Thanks for expanding on it.

 

[Fyrtwuck]

Bite me goofwad.

Really! You make a statement that you'd like to help. I agree with you and you call me a name? Wow!

 

[Shadowrider]

according to some reports the BLM has been kicking people off the public lands and leasing them to the oil & gas industry, so much for giving two shits about the desert tortoise. I saw an article but it was on natural news and in my experience their view is often very skewed. I've got no issue with frackings and drillings and what have yous, but I do have a huge issue with the govt overstepping their authority and ginning up a scapegoat. The rancher has made himself an easy target but that still doesn't change my opinion. The BLM are really wearing their Brown Shirts proudly!

edited to add this blurb straight from the BLM website:

The BLM manages more than 245 million acres of public land, the most of any Federal agency. This land, known as the National System of Public Lands, is primarily located in 12 Western states, including Alaska. The BLM also administers 700 million acres of sub-surface mineral estate throughout the nation. The BLM's mission is to manage and conserve the public lands for the use and enjoyment of present and future generations under our mandate of multiple-use and sustained yield. In Fiscal Year 2013, the BLM generated $4.7 billion in receipts from public lands.

Looks like those tortoise hating grass eating cows have realllly hurt the blm income!

Sub, the BLM doesn't kick the ranchers off to lease minerals to the O&G companies. Minerals and surface rights are often treated as completely separate things. The surface rights are subject to the mineral
rights, but there is no reason whatsoever to boot the ranchers, at least not for O&G activity. What I'm saying is that the rancher takes their lease with the understanding that well(s) may be drilled, mines may be dug, etc. How much acreage does a drill sight take up? It's just not an issue to the rancher other than he might want a cattle guard or fence put here and there and that's even paid for by the driller in almost all cases.

You are right about the turtles though, it ain't about them for sure.

 

[Hobbes]

You are right about the turtles though, it ain't about them for sure.

You're both right, it's not about tortoises.

The bureau has been rounding up Bundy’s cattle after he incurred more than $1 million in fines over a 20-year period for refusing to pay a grazing fee instituted to protect desert tortoises living in the area, known as the Gold Butte.

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

How did the BLM acquire the land in question?

 

[uncle money bags]

probably the same way the fed government acquired the rest of the 86% of the state they own and control.

 

[Hobbes]

I don't think I should have to pay for a hunting or fishing license.
My family hast historical roots to Oklahoma that go back to before statehood.

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

probably the same way the fed government acquired the rest of the 86% of the state they own and control.

Imminent Domain?

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

I don't think I should have to pay for a hunting or fishing license.
My family hast historical roots to Oklahoma that go back to before statehood.

I agree with that.

 

[Hobbes]

I agree with that.

Good deal.
You'll be there for me when the game warden writes my ticket then.