You've not held an iPhone 4 (or seen how fragile their all-glass case is) if you think they are solid. The 3gs wasn't bad, but I'vei seen 7 (so far) destroyed iPhone 4s and I don't even know too many apple fans.half the reason for the iphone is just that it feels so solid and it has a sexy design. Most other phones i've felt going for the same idea just seem kinda hokey in your hand, sure they get it done, but it's just not as solid and awesome... an iphone is like a well tuned 1911