Yikes... I didn't see this part. Very, very, very bad, IMO. Dangit.
Yikes... I didn't see this part. Very, very, very bad, IMO. Dangit.
OK, so the fairgrounds language directly contradicts itself now.
In one sub-section:
B. For purposes of paragraphs 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 of subsection A of this section, the prohibited place does not include and specifically excludes the following property:
4. Any property designated by a city, town, county or state governmental authority as a park, recreational area, or fairgrounds; provided, nothing in this paragraph shall be construed to authorize any entry by a person in possession of a concealed or unconcealed handgun into any structure, building or office space which is specifically prohibited by the provisions of subsection A of this section; and
Then the new language:
D. No person, property owner, tenant, employer, holder of an event permit, place of worship or business entity shall be permitted to establish any policy or rule that has the effect of prohibiting any person from carrying a concealed or unconcealed firearm on property within the specific exclusion provided for in paragraph 4 of subsection B of Section 1277 of this title; provided that carrying a concealed or unconcealed firearm may be prohibited in the following places:
3. The fairgrounds during the Oklahoma State Fair or the Tulsa State Fair; and
So fairgrounds are specifically excluded from being a prohibited place, but then are prohibited?
This bill seems like an overall step backwards.
In one sub-section:
B. For purposes of paragraphs 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 of subsection A of this section, the prohibited place does not include and specifically excludes the following property:
4. Any property designated by a city, town, county or state governmental authority as a park, recreational area, or fairgrounds; provided, nothing in this paragraph shall be construed to authorize any entry by a person in possession of a concealed or unconcealed handgun into any structure, building or office space which is specifically prohibited by the provisions of subsection A of this section; and
Then the new language:
D. No person, property owner, tenant, employer, holder of an event permit, place of worship or business entity shall be permitted to establish any policy or rule that has the effect of prohibiting any person from carrying a concealed or unconcealed firearm on property within the specific exclusion provided for in paragraph 4 of subsection B of Section 1277 of this title; provided that carrying a concealed or unconcealed firearm may be prohibited in the following places:
3. The fairgrounds during the Oklahoma State Fair or the Tulsa State Fair; and
So fairgrounds are specifically excluded from being a prohibited place, but then are prohibited?
This bill seems like an overall step backwards.
Sounds like they are exempt, EXCEPT during the state fair, so boat show, car
Show, outdoor expo are allowded, based on first paragraph, but then prohibited for those 10 days based on the second. Clear as mud right?
You always could. Now, it may be prohibited during the fair.
One less reason to go to the fair, I guess.
It's the old legislative flim-flam where they give with the right hand while taking away with the left. Nothing new to see here...move along.
It removes the prohibited buildings (except courthouses & public schools). Clears up the 'you can carry on the fair grounds or parks but not in the buildings' except during the state fairs. Also decriminalizes the act. Also removes carry at pro sporting events from a criminal act. They can ask you to leave and would be trespassing if you don't.
"The measure also prohibits the carrying of a firearm into a publicly owned or operated venue
unless allowed by the event holder."
OK, so before we stop by the car show, farmers market, anything else going on that might be in or on public property, we need to check with the organizer of the event and see if we can legally CC at his event?
This does not sound like a great law to me.
unless allowed by the event holder."
OK, so before we stop by the car show, farmers market, anything else going on that might be in or on public property, we need to check with the organizer of the event and see if we can legally CC at his event?
This does not sound like a great law to me.
This is from the email that I received from OK2A.
"The first of hopefully several pro-gun bills has passed both chambers of the Legislature and been sent to the Governor to be signed. SB1057, an effort to close a loophole used by cities to ban the otherwise legal carrying of weapons during city festivals, has evolved into much more. In addition to closing that loophole, SB1057 dramatically reforms much of the prohibited places section of the Self Defense Act.
Under the provisions of this bill, it will no longer be a misdemeanor crime to carry into many public buildings. The penalty will be lowered to a trespass violation with a maximum fine of $250. This excludes courthouses, courtrooms, jails and prisons, and public schools.
The bill also decriminalizes carrying into professional sporting events held at public venues and the event holder will have the option to allow carry even at public venues. Private venues have been removed completely from the section, so the decision to allow carry is up to the management of the private venue.
The bill also strengthens legal protections for businesses that allow employees to carry a firearm while at work.
There was one trade-off in this bill. Currently, during the Tulsa and OKC State Fairs, it is legal to carry on the fairgrounds, but illegal to carry into any structure (including restrooms). Under this bill, the Tulsa and OKC Fairgrounds would be a gun-free area during the state fairs. However, there is no criminal penalty for carrying into the fair. We felt decriminalizing the buildings was a big enough positive to give up the fairgrounds for two and a half weeks a year. Again, this only applies to Oklahoma City and Tulsa and only during the state fairs. It does not apply to any other county fairs or fairgrounds.
Governor Fallin is expected to sign this bill."
"The first of hopefully several pro-gun bills has passed both chambers of the Legislature and been sent to the Governor to be signed. SB1057, an effort to close a loophole used by cities to ban the otherwise legal carrying of weapons during city festivals, has evolved into much more. In addition to closing that loophole, SB1057 dramatically reforms much of the prohibited places section of the Self Defense Act.
Under the provisions of this bill, it will no longer be a misdemeanor crime to carry into many public buildings. The penalty will be lowered to a trespass violation with a maximum fine of $250. This excludes courthouses, courtrooms, jails and prisons, and public schools.
The bill also decriminalizes carrying into professional sporting events held at public venues and the event holder will have the option to allow carry even at public venues. Private venues have been removed completely from the section, so the decision to allow carry is up to the management of the private venue.
The bill also strengthens legal protections for businesses that allow employees to carry a firearm while at work.
There was one trade-off in this bill. Currently, during the Tulsa and OKC State Fairs, it is legal to carry on the fairgrounds, but illegal to carry into any structure (including restrooms). Under this bill, the Tulsa and OKC Fairgrounds would be a gun-free area during the state fairs. However, there is no criminal penalty for carrying into the fair. We felt decriminalizing the buildings was a big enough positive to give up the fairgrounds for two and a half weeks a year. Again, this only applies to Oklahoma City and Tulsa and only during the state fairs. It does not apply to any other county fairs or fairgrounds.
Governor Fallin is expected to sign this bill."
Not for me...
