SCOTUS Healthcare Ruling

[3inSlugger]

After some thought, if you the position that Statism is the highest order of anti-freedom, and that the other '-isims' are the various applications, I would agree. Unfortunately, the use of Statism does NOT seem to have the negative connotation of Communism. Therefore, to be accurate, I still prefer to call it Communist behavior.

EVERYONE, including the former practitioners of Communism, understand it is wrong. Well, except for liberal U.S. subjects, Castro, and their fans.

Well it should have the negative connotation. It is the grand daddy of modern oppressive governments.

No offense, but if you use Communism where it doesn't apply, it totally alienates alot of people on the fence. Communism is dying, the Cold War is over, McCarthy is dead.

It is socialism that is on the rise here and in Europe. And it is in politician's nature to be statist...hell they think it is their job to run our lives. Statism will always be a problem.

 

[WTJ]

But what I'm saying is that 95% of the Rs and Ds are statist. Doesn't mean they're Commies or socialist.
Hell, even Obama isn't a very good socialist, but he's a Grade A statist just like the slick-haired babykisser Romney. And Jim Inhofe. Coburn a little less so.

So if anyone here thinks the gubberment should be responsible for healthcare or education or labor or that the .gov should have a say in gay marriage and most other social/religious issues then enjoy your new status as a statist.

The Feds had three mandates. Unfortunately, they didn't see the elephant in the room when they wrote the Interstate Commerce piece. NO gov has any place in social issues. Based on behavior, I think 90% of DC is Communist, but the difference is in terminology.

 

[Hobbes]

Mandrake, have you ever seen a commie drink a glass of water?

 

[Shadowrider]

Originally Posted by RidgeHunter
The Democratic party has effectively moved the the center-right

Dang Ridge, you need an intervention! Here ya go...



Feel better now?

 

[WTJ]

Well it should have the negative connotation. It is the grand daddy of modern oppressive governments.

No offense, but if you use Communism where it doesn't apply, it totally alienates alot of people on the fence. Communism is dying, the Cold War is over, McCarthy is dead.

It is socialism that is on the rise here and in Europe. And it is in politician's nature to be statist...hell they think it is their job to run our lives. Statism will always be a problem.

Not offended at all. I would say that the Cold War is not over, but that it is now an internal conflict, as opposed to a Foreign Affairs issue. To your point, I think a key point to the issue is that we avoid a clear delineation in order to avoid 'alienating' the fence-sitters, when the fence-sitters are a core part of the problem. They need to pick a side and unass the fence. The most well known fence-sitter was Chamberlain and we know where that went. If it upsets the anti-freedom Statists to be called Communists, well, then, that makes me very pleased. McCarthy, while a conflicted individual, may very well be proven mostly right if we continue our downward spiral.

 

[farmerbyron]

But what I'm saying is that 95% of the Rs and Ds are statist. Doesn't mean they're Commies or socialist.
Hell, even Obama isn't a very good socialist, but he's a Grade A statist just like the slick-haired babykisser Romney. And Jim Inhofe. Coburn a little less so.

So if anyone here thinks the gubberment should be responsible for healthcare or education or labor or that the .gov should have a say in gay marriage and most other social/religious issues then enjoy your new status as a statist.

Statism's opposite would be anarchy so by your definition, yes we are all statist to some degree.

I think the term that fits is authoritarianism. Really the left right debate is moot because they each want to control the population in different ways. If we could change the debate to a libertarian vs. authoritarian one, it would present a more stark contrast than this stupid left right stuff.

If we are talking about economic theory the graph should have capitalism on one end, communism on the other end, with socialism in the middle.

Well that's my quota for political and economic theory for the day. Have a good one.

 

[JB Books]

Absolute fact. The Democrats have never, on the other hand, even pretended to be rational, unless you can rationalize Marxism. The few who have tried bailed on the party.

What a tired old canard. Democrats = Communists/Socialists/marxists. This week. Next week they are facists.

Really need a new tune.

 

[WTJ]

Mandrake, have you ever seen a commie drink a glass of water?

My favorite movie. General Ripper should be a National Hero. I have never seen a true Commie drink a glass of tap water either. I don't think they add fluoride to Perrier. But children's ice cream?

 

[JB Books]

If you properly close the loop at the bottom then this is correct. Understand that revisionist history has seperated Fascism from Communism. Prior to WW II there was no distinction, and I make none now.

Don't care what some 'expert' says. The research says otherwise.

You are absolutely 100% incorrect.

 

[Glocktogo]

You can call them whatever you like, so long as you make it stick.