something i haven't seen talked about in this thread yet, safety when confronting individuals that (a. are armed)( b. outnumber the offended). for God's sake be careful. i am on board with the general consensus of this forum on the touble with poachers. but a deer, any deer, is not worth losing your life for. if you absolutley feel like you must talk to the poachers, try to have back up of some kind.(another person (armed)), a video recorder, a game camera, your cell phone recording it, something. otherwise without witness of some kind , you run into the way wrong poacher and you r family may never know the truth. be careful and to he77 with poachers.