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could they not just go under, start over with a new company and new name say Wunderbread, hire non union workers and keep the twinkies coming? Or would they have to be sold/bought out by another established company.

Does Little Debbie use union bakers? That seems to be the root of the problems and how would someone else taking over the brand using union bakers make this any different. The people striking would just get their jobs back working for someone else, or would they?

The story on the KJRH website had a couple of interesting quotes.
http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_...ngs-and-wonder-bread-is-going-out-of-business

First was that the union head thinks someone will come along and offer them a better deal than Hostess/Wonderbread was offering. The other comment was from the company saying that most will be able to qualify for government unemployment benefits. I really hope that some of the unemployed see that above the local level unions are only out for themselves. I do believe that at the local level most unions do try to help the employees.
 

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The story on the KJRH website had a couple of interesting quotes.
http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_...ngs-and-wonder-bread-is-going-out-of-business

First was that the union head thinks someone will come along and offer them a better deal than Hostess/Wonderbread was offering. The other comment was from the company saying that most will be able to qualify for government unemployment benefits. I really hope that some of the unemployed see that above the local level unions are only out for themselves. I do believe that at the local level most unions do try to help the employees.

I believe that with this liquidation, whoever buys the assets will be under no obligation whatsoever to continue the present union contract or even to offer a contract that compares with the one the employees were being offered by Hostess. In the grand scheme of union vs. company, this move will give an enormous advantage to the companies. With the purchase of a brand, the new owners will have the option of re-locating production in states that are right-to-work or which do not have as deeply entrenched unions. If current employees reject whatever contracts are offered them by the new owners, they run a very serious risk of having the operations moved somewhere else entirely, making the whole idea of collective bargaining moot. In any case, there is virtually no upside potential for the employees in this deal. They held out for an impossibly good deal and now are going to be sent to the unemployment line. Here is a good video from CNBC with their CEO regarding the events:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-twinkie-is-dead-hostess-to-close-18k-layoffs-expected/

Someone over in union headquarters made a serious strategic miscalculation here.
 

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I remember when people were scared to death of loosing their job. These days it seems some people look forward to it like its a vacation, and they want and invite layoffs!

This country is getting closer everyday to failing! Nothing is going to change and will get worse over the next four years. People with any kind of sense can see this. We are becoming Europe if not in worse shape!
 

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Boy, the Hostess store on S. Western & 53rd sure looks busy this morning! Spoke with the lady at the store, they will be officially done on Monday.

I'll miss the Donettes, though. They're my favorite brand of frosted chocolate donuts.
 

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I believe that with this liquidation, whoever buys the assets will be under no obligation whatsoever to continue the present union contract or even to offer a contract that compares with the one the employees were being offered by Hostess. In the grand scheme of union vs. company, this move will give an enormous advantage to the companies. With the purchase of a brand, the new owners will have the option of re-locating production in states that are right-to-work or which do not have as deeply entrenched unions. If current employees reject whatever contracts are offered them by the new owners, they run a very serious risk of having the operations moved somewhere else entirely, making the whole idea of collective bargaining moot. In any case, there is virtually no upside potential for the employees in this deal. They held out for an impossibly good deal and now are going to be sent to the unemployment line. Here is a good video from CNBC with their CEO regarding the events:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-twinkie-is-dead-hostess-to-close-18k-layoffs-expected/

Someone over in union headquarters made a serious strategic miscalculation here.


Oklahoma is a right to work so couldnt the new owners just keep the plant here and hire non union anyways. The hard part for the companies using union employees now is replacing them with non-union employees without having to close shop and start over.
 

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