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the cost of wind power

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by cowadle, Feb 20, 2021.

  1. dennishoddy

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    This is true in most states. What the solar/wind power people won’t tell you is that the power companies only buy it back at wholesale prices, not the retail you buy from the same utility.
    Huge difference in prices.
     
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    The 24in center stud walls are part of a technique called advanced framing. Supposedly it allows for higher r value insulation to be used in exterior walls, floors and roof systems. I worked around a few builders up in Colorado 10+ years ago who used these building practices but I can't tell you how well they work or how much they weaken the structure if the home
     
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    We have a development in town that used that method.
    You can drive by, look at the roofs and see where every truss is located because of the ripple in the wood sheathing.
     
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    True story. As smart as we are as a species, it sure took a long time to realize how lousy wood is at insulating.

    Story of a bad builder. You would think as attic space is unconditioned space, 16 on center would be minimal standard as insulating the space isn't an expectation.
     
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    What actually happened in that development is that the builder used 7/16th OSB vs the double layer 3/4" plywood to create the sheathing they should have.
    It can't support the load of the asphalt shingles creating the ripple/sag.
     
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    The last year we deer hunted, we found ourselves scrambling at the last moment for land. Pop up blinds got left out the year before, had to put something together for 4 hunters. Ended up building two 4x8 blinds with two dozen 2x4's and 8 sheets of 1/4" osb. Didn't even know they made OSB that thin at the time. Total cost was $71 for both including screws lol. Just eight years ago. You can't even buy a dozen 2x4's for that now.

    Seeing how that osb aged, I'm shocked someone would build with 7/16th hahaha. It melted by New years.
     
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    Yep, hurricanes have kept the price of plywood/OSB high now. You can put any amount of paint on OSB and it will eventually fail.
    Built a 6X6 deer blind out of it. Put 5 or six layers of oil based paint on it inside and out. It dissolved in about 5 years. Worthless wood. I don't build anything designed to be outdoors without using pressure treated wood. My main tower blind using that wood has been in service for over 20 years now. Still dry inside. Buy once cry once cuz that stuff isn't cheap.
     
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    Not just hurricanes. This past year of shutdowns and limited staffing in the timber industry has PT and CDX ply nearly doubled across the board. A true 3/4" pt sheet of ply at lowes is just north of $100 right now. I thought $4 for southern yellow pine 2x4's was crazy expensive when I bought a few weeks ago. Saw em over the weekend, $6.75 per stud.
     
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    that was an interesting presentation. but remember all of this is assuming that "climate change" is actually happening? and IF it is is it actually because of fossil fuel? he seems to like nuclear as clean energy but with so few nuclear sites actually in existence and considering the magnitude of a single accident. will he still have the same attitude later. the questions???? Is climate change real? and IF it is,are we causing it or is it a natural cycle that happens in a time frame beyond our ability to comprehend??? or is climate change a fabrication to allow the subsequent taxation of humanity???
     
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