Through arguing with these people

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farmerbyron

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I hear ya. Just today got into a discussion about this very thing and am out of ways to explain it to people that have no interest in facts or the rule of law.

So sick of the "Founders didn't envision assault rifles", "Don't need 30 rounds to hunt", "You can't stand up to tanks and airstrikes with any rifle", "The founders are just like politicians today so who cares about their views on anything", "Times have changed and the constitution is outdated".

It's like that Piers Morgan video with Larry Pratt. They really are that full of hatred and condescension. They are incapable of having a respectful debate or engaging in critical thought. Tired.
 

Dale00

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O'Reilly says that we have to control the really powerful weapons like AR's. He is too busy being an glib entertainer to check his facts.

It seems that everybody is an expert and knows what the common citizen should not have. Everybody knows that those high capacity magazines need to go away, because... it sounds good.

Maybe we should be asking the questions, listen to their answers and then explain why the answer is wrong.
"Do you think people have a right to defend themselves? How?"
"How do you think school teachers should protect students?"
 

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I will never give up. Anytime someone asks or begins to argue i will try to state my point or reasoning as clearly as possible. Sometimes its harder for me because im having a conversation with someone who either knows very little about the subject or someone who just repeats what they hear on CNN. Its sad but allot of kids at my school dont even know what the Bill of Rights is.
 

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So sick of the "Founders didn't envision assault rifles", "Don't need 30 rounds to hunt", "You can't stand up to tanks and airstrikes with any rifle", "The founders are just like politicians today so who cares about their views on anything", "Times have changed and the constitution is outdated".

Best answer I've heard for this to date has been... 'No, the founders didn't envision modern firearms. Neither did they envision modern communications technology and your First Amendment rights have done just fine with the advent of radio, television and the internet.'
 

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Crap, I heard a sound bit today of our veep using the old tried and true "cop killer bullets" line. They are whipping out all the old plays that are so full of stupid with impunity. Clips and AR-47s and cop killer bullets. Aaaaaahhh.
 

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