Timothy Harper arrested..... finally! Idiot.

[donner]

It's interesting how many folks seem to think that being poor is easy. Google will also return lots of examples about how the court system makes it difficult for folks to 'fix' their bad situations. If you read the story below, you'll see examples of how states attempt to punish folks to get them to pay back court fees, including suspending their right to drive.

Here is a story that NPR did back in 2014 about the issue.

https://www.npr.org/2014/05/19/312158516/increasing-court-fees-punish-the-poor

An excerpt:

In Washington state, for example, there's 12 percent interest on costs in felony cases that accrues from the moment of judgment until all fines, fees, restitution and interest are paid off in full. As a result, it can be hard for someone who's poor to make that debt ever go away. One state commission found that the average amount in felony cases adds up to $2,500. If someone paid a typical amount — $10 a month — and never missed a payment, his debt would keep growing. After four years of faithful payments, the person would now owe $3,000.

Virginia Dickerson, of Richland, Wash., has been drug-free for more than three years and out of jail for over a year. She's living in a treatment house and working as a waitress and cook. On the day last fall when NPR reporters met her, Dickerson was at the courthouse trying to get a summary of how much she owed in fines, fees and interest. The total: almost $10,000.

I don't think any here is saying we need to feel sorry for folks that have made bad choices. But their choices do not immediately mean there aren't other problems with the system. Especially if those problems are things that compound problems and make folks more likely to be repeat offenders.

 

[magna19]

Didnt hit the link but the two stories you posted dont have much merit. Maybe Virginia Dickerson cost of 10000.00 was mostly fines for the crimes she committed. Maybe her crime merited 10000.00 in cost. Maybe that was the fine for a lighter sentence. Also if you ring up 2500 in felony cases and pay it quickly, move on and learn. If you choose to drag it out over several years doesnt mean the system is wrong it means your working the system. A lot of these articles are written for the agenda the author is supporting. Didnt yall learn this in grade school

 

[Lonewatie]

Pretty sure he was arguing the other facts that I asked you about that a court paper trail wont show.

But, he wasnt. He asked for the docket number to research the facts of the case showing how many opportunities they had to simply pay the "bs ticket" proving thus it wasnt the system but the individual who was responsible for his own " hard times"

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[SMS]

It’s not that tickets are “b.s.”, it’s that the cost of said tickets and the sheer quantity being written have rapidly outpaced reality and wages.

$500 hit for running a stop light? $200 for going 10 over on an empty road with no homes in broad daylight. Eight tickets written for a burnt out license plate light (one because driver’s legal name was Michael but his license said Mike).

It’s not opinion that tickets are being used as major revenue generators and taking a bite out of folks’ pockets.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/citation-nation-15093.html

 

[donner]

Didnt hit the link but the two stories you posted dont have much merit. Maybe Virginia Dickerson cost of 10000.00 was mostly fines for the crimes she committed. Maybe her crime merited 10000.00 in cost. Maybe that was the fine for a lighter sentence. Also if you ring up 2500 in felony cases and pay it quickly, move on and learn. If you choose to drag it out over several years doesnt mean the system is wrong it means your working the system. A lot of these articles are written for the agenda the author is supporting. Didnt yall learn this in grade school

haha. 'didn't hit the link but...' If you're going to try to pick it apart, maybe you should actually read it first. Otherwise you're just talking out your ass and do a disservice to any point you're trying to make.

Maybe you're right, maybe you're not. Maybe the answers are in the article. Maybe there are other examples that could help reinforce what others are say. Maybe you'd learn something.

 

[magna19]

haha. 'didn't hit the link but...' If you're going to try to pick it apart, maybe you should actually read it first. Otherwise you're just talking out your ass and do a disservice to any point you're trying to make.

Maybe you're right, maybe you're not. Maybe the answers are in the article. Maybe there are other examples that could help reinforce what others are say. Maybe you'd learn something.

Just read the first 3 paragraphs. Its repeating the invalid points again.
In Augusta, Ga., a judge sentenced Tom Barrett to 12 months after he stole a can of beer worth less than $2.

In Ionia, Mich., 19-year-old Kyle Dewitt caught a fish out of season; then a judge sentenced him to three days in jail.

In Grand Rapids, Mich., Stephen Papa, a homeless Iraq War veteran, spent 22 days in jail, not for what he calls his "embarrassing behavior" after he got drunk with friends and climbed into an abandoned building, but because he had only $25 the day he went to court.

 

[magna19]

Some of you in this thread got an F!!!!!!!!! Like David Lee Roth said Class Dismiss!!!!!!!!

 

[magna19]

All three of the first three in the link were how repeated offenders are usually treated in the court of law. I bet all three were repeat offenders and got what the parking ticket guy got. The articles incident just wrote in a CNN manner to prove something.

 

[donner]

Just read the first 3 paragraphs. Its repeating the invalid points again.
In Augusta, Ga., a judge sentenced Tom Barrett to 12 months after he stole a can of beer worth less than $2.

In Ionia, Mich., 19-year-old Kyle Dewitt caught a fish out of season; then a judge sentenced him to three days in jail.

In Grand Rapids, Mich., Stephen Papa, a homeless Iraq War veteran, spent 22 days in jail, not for what he calls his "embarrassing behavior" after he got drunk with friends and climbed into an abandoned building, but because he had only $25 the day he went to court.

ha. i shall endeavor to find a shorter article more suited to your attention span and level of comprehension.

 

[magna19]

The articles incident just wrote in a CNN manner to prove something.

That means not the whole story!!! In case any yall hanging around after class. LMAO