To survive a shoot students learn to fight back

[donner]

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Here is an interesting article and takes an approach that i think many here agree with.

The names Columbine and Virginia Tech have both become tragic shorthand for school shootings in America. In the wake of those shootings, schools have developed a fairly typical lockdown procedure when there's a threat: sound the alarm, call police, lock doors and stay put.

The standard school lockdown plan is intended to minimize chaos, so police arriving on the scene don't shoot the wrong people. Students practice following directions, getting into classrooms and essentially, waiting.

But some security experts think that response plan is inadequate, and may actually be dangerous. A growing number of schools are now adopting controversial training that offers a different type of response — including how to fight back against a gunman.

Beyond Lockdown And Wait

Greg Crane, a former teacher and SWAT officer, notes that even trained police officers miss roughly three-quarters of their shots fired in the line of duty. In contrast, he says, "school shooters, they don't miss at that high a rate. In fact, they almost hit at that high a rate.

"[Gunman Seung-hui] Cho at Virginia Tech, he was over a 100-to-one numerical disadvantage," Crane adds. "One person should not be able to do what these single shooters are able to do."

They are able to hit so many people, Crane says, in part because the staff and students are just too easy to shoot. "We've conditioned them to go sit in a corner, go sit under a table."

So Crane developed a training program that teaches potential victims to make themselves harder to target — and that includes ways to fight back. He dubbed the program "ALICE Training": Alert, Lockdown, Inform, Counter, Evacuate.

"We don't tell [students and staff] what to do. We tell them what they can do," Crane says. "Ultimately, they're going to be the ones experiencing this danger, and we want them to be the ones to decide, 'What is it that I can do that will increase my chance of survival?'"

Crane and other ALICE proponents want to empower the people in a shooting situation — even children — to make those life-and-death decisions. At least 1.6 million students in almost 300 school systems, from elementary schools to colleges and universities, have had ALICE training. Crane says he's even taught it to kindergarteners.

'Throwing, Screaming, Yelling'

Auburn University in Alabama is a more typical setting for Alice Training. On a recent afternoon, emergency manager Chance Corbett is analyzing school shootings for about 30 staff and students.

Corbett points out huge differences in room-to-room survival rates based on what occupants did. At Virginia Tech, a professor was killed, but not before he saved students' lives by getting them to jump out windows.

In one school building, Corbett says, 12 students were killed in one room, and eight in another. But in a classroom where students barricaded the door, "it was zero," Corbett says. "They made a decision that day, it saved their lives. How many of you want to be in that classroom?"

ALICE teaches potential victims "how to barricade, how to lock down, how to run," Corbett says. And while he says escape is always best, "when it gets to the point that [the shooters] are there to do the harm, do you really want your kid just to hide under the desk?"

Corbett says "countering," or fighting back, is a last resort, but he feels strongly that people should know how.

Corbett illustrates one "counter" technique with a drill using tennis balls. Shooters can't help but look at flying objects, he says. That can buy students time to flee or charge.

Corbett also stresses the need to work together.

"Teamwork. Strength in numbers, guys. You don't want two things going at his head, you want 34 things going at his head," Corbett says. "You're gonna be fighting, throwing, screaming, yelling, and swarming, getting out of the way, moving."

A Controversial Approach

ALICE supporters often quote examples of unarmed people stopping shooters. Even so, not everyone thinks it's a good approach.

"Most middle-school kids can't decide between chicken nuggets and pizza for lunch," says school security consultant and writer Ken Trump. "To think that we're gonna put that liability and responsibility in the hands of a seventh-grader is insane."

Many parents feel the same way. Greg Crane's hometown of Burleson, Texas, was the first school district in the country to try ALICE. Some parents supported it, but others revolted, and the superintendent pulled the plug. An Alabama district recently started ALICE and is in the middle of a similar controversy.

Ken Trump says the issue forces parents to confront a troubling question: Would you want your child leading the charge against an armed attacker?

The number of schools using ALICE Training "may continue to grow," Trump says, "until the first child who jumps up at an armed intruder gets killed, and a school official has to explain. I would not want my child to be the first one dead on the classroom floor."

But school policy analyst Trisha Powell Crain sees ALICE training as part of a shift toward more active resistance in crime situations. Before Sept. 11, Crain says, passengers were advised to comply with hijackers. Self-defense instructors used to tell women to go limp to survive a rape. Today, she says, experts have changed their thinking about how potential victims should respond.

And Crain, a mother of two college students and one high school student, says some parents are willing to accept the risk the ALICE method may pose to students — and that she's one of them.

"I would be proud of them if they stepped up and tried to end the shooting," Crain says. "It's just tragic. It's tough to think about. But if your child helped save lives in the process, then yes, that's acceptable."

 

[dan45]

Fighting back. What a novel idea.

 

[FlimFlam]

But that would go against some of their zero tolerance policy on violence...

 

[ignerntbend]

But that would go against some of their zero tolerance policy on violence...

There's the rub.

 

[ignerntbend]

We should teach the children to live in a constant state of fear.

 

[dan45]

But that would go against some of their zero tolerance policy on violence...

Don't even get me started on that^^^.

That policy is such a load of crap

 

[nemesis]

Ah yes, the state of American education. We get our model from England. You know, the country that has declared it illegal to defend oneself from people that need to be dead.