C'mon, you gotta be pragmatic about some things. Life is not black and white. Equating blood trailing dogs with road hunting is disingenuous. There is discretion involved in the enforcement and resulting penalties of most any law.
C'mon, you gotta be pragmatic about some things. Life is not black and white. Equating blood trailing dogs with road hunting is disingenuous. There is discretion involved in the enforcement and resulting penalties of most any law.
If I ever have to use my yellow lab to find my deer you'll be the first I send a pm to to come help me look. Maybe you can road hunt on the way to the field. After all, I'll be doing something just as bad as you road hunting..Hey,I can even call my county game warden (he only lives 2 miles from where I hunt) and tell him to forget the road hunter, me and my deer chasing yellow lab are in the woods, better come save all the deer from her jaws of death...
Now lets see. If I got a big deer down, go home get my lab and my shot gun with bird shot and go quail hunting in the same brush thicket I saw my deer run into? Is this still as bad as road hunting? Some people just amaze me..But then, I'm a graduate of Sasakwa University and so I'm pretty easy to amaze. I'm done
I guess Im not seeing it but I don't see where it says its illegal to use dogs to track a downed deer.
Your not using the dog to harvest the animal. The deer has already been shot and you are using it to recover a downed animal. I don't think any game warden in Oklahoma would ticket you for doing so.
Your not using the dog to harvest the animal. The deer has already been shot and you are using it to recover a downed animal. I don't think any game warden in Oklahoma would ticket you for doing so.
I've always thought I could track a mouse across a rock by its foot prints, but took a snap shot once on a doe getting ready to jump a fence. By the time the brain, finger, lock time, and bullet flight occurred, she was starting to be airborne. By the time she hit the ground on the other side of the fence, most of the intestines were hanging out of the body cavity. The bullet opened her up. No blood, nothing but leaves disturbed by the dragging intestines. Should have been an easy tracking job, but she hit some grass areas, and the trail went away.
Walked circles for hours looking for sign, before jumping her laying behind a log. She ran dragging guts like she wasn't even hurt. I sat and waited an hour. I'm into the 5th hour of tracking her, basically wandering the woods hoping to see a long lump in the leaves.
Finally spotted her standing, and finished the hunt. If it had been a shot in the evening, there would have not been a chance in hell for a recovery.
It was pure luck that she happened to be there. If she had been standing 20 yds to the left, she would have been yote bait, as I was ready to give it up by that time. I've lost one in my lifetime of hunting, and if a dog had been available, I would have payed. I felt sick for a week afterward.
Walked circles for hours looking for sign, before jumping her laying behind a log. She ran dragging guts like she wasn't even hurt. I sat and waited an hour. I'm into the 5th hour of tracking her, basically wandering the woods hoping to see a long lump in the leaves.
Finally spotted her standing, and finished the hunt. If it had been a shot in the evening, there would have not been a chance in hell for a recovery.
It was pure luck that she happened to be there. If she had been standing 20 yds to the left, she would have been yote bait, as I was ready to give it up by that time. I've lost one in my lifetime of hunting, and if a dog had been available, I would have payed. I felt sick for a week afterward.
Deer are not owned by the state.
Enforcement of laws reguarding deer are the responsibility of the state.
I have questioned Tracy, and other GW's in public meetings about this. They said its not legal, and the folks running deer with dogs in SE OK are the reason this law is still on the books.
Whether they choose to enforce that law, would probably be at the discretion of the GW considering the circumstances.
Before I would attempt to do this, I would certainly contact the GW in the county where the deer was killed.
Ok fair enough. I was about to email Spencer but Im sure he would give the same answer as Tracy
The Point is, a law is a law. Some of you have knowingly broke it and admitting to it on an open forum. Then claim it's ok cause u don't agree with the law. The other point is, where do we draw the line on which laws we agree with and should follow. For some it could get real bad, like my road hunting BS.
As for "we owe it to the deer to do everything to find it (even break the law)" Your taking the Deers life, u think it gives a crap if u find it, eat it, cut it's head off and hang it on the wall or leave it for the coyotes and vultures? Probably not cause it's dead. Ya it's nice to find every deer we shoot, but it doesn't always happen and that's something us as hunters just have to deal with.
As for "we owe it to the deer to do everything to find it (even break the law)" Your taking the Deers life, u think it gives a crap if u find it, eat it, cut it's head off and hang it on the wall or leave it for the coyotes and vultures? Probably not cause it's dead. Ya it's nice to find every deer we shoot, but it doesn't always happen and that's something us as hunters just have to deal with.
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