Warrantless search - Rogers County

[THAT Gurl]

everyone who is against the Cops and thinks they are out to get you you should become one . instead of armchair judging... you wouldn't last 5 minutes... thanks to all who serve not easy .

This is the God's honest truth. I was "done" less than 45 minutes into Grumpy's shift (ride along on July 4). I made a thread here back in the Old Days and the OGs had more than a few laughs at my expense. I think everyone's favorite -- BY FAR -- was the female jailer who thought I was the "new resident" and Grumpy was being far too nice to me. What an adventure that day was ...

 

[CODE_3]

Without disputing the facts:

If an LEO smells marijuana in a vehicle and an occupant can't produce a medical marijuana card, there is probable cause to search the vehicle without a warrant. Miranda is also not required in these circumstances. Also see Carrol V. U.S. 267 U.S. 162 Warrantless search of a vehicle.

To file a complaint, you will need to contact the Roger's County Sheriff's Office.

Correct!

 

[elwoodtrix]

So, did the 3rd brake light get fixed?

 

[tweetr]

So, did the 3rd brake light get fixed?

Sure. About as consequential as any other light bulb.
If the Sheriff's Office is that concerned about a third brake light, merely sending an email would do the job just fine without all the drama.

 

[Glocktogo]

Sure. About as consequential as any other light bulb.
If the Sheriff's Office is that concerned about a third brake light, merely sending an email would do the job just fine without all the drama.

 

[tweetr]

Why not? Where is the urgency?

The eager explanation the Lieutenant gave for all the drama (handcuffing, stuffing in the back of a police vehicle) is, and I quote nearly verbatim:
"Traffic stops are the most dangerous thing we do! You would be amazed how quickly it can go from routine to extreme!"

In that case, why undertake the most dangerous evolution you can make over something so inconsequential? Just send an email. For that matter just look up the car owner's address (doesn't really matter who is driving the car) and send a snail mail. Where is the urgency? That solves the problem of alerting the car owner without placing either the driver or the officer in any unnecessary danger.

If danger is really the reason for all that drama.

 

[tweetr]

Correct!

Not really correct.

He was stopped for an inoperative third brake light. That is probable cause to "search" - ahem - the third brake light. For which one does not need a dog, does one? How did the dog get there?

You, naturally, don't know this, but I do. For the purpose of discussion just accept that this is so:
There was no marijuana. There never was any marijuana. There never has been any marijuana in that car, at least not in the c. two years he has owned this used car. Follow the logic, then:

There was no marijuana. Therefore there was no odor of marijuana, let alone a "strong odor." How then did we get from a third brake light to marijuana? The deputy on-scene was notably evasive on this pertinent point. The lieutenant supervising the office was notably evasive on this pertinent point. It is necessary to establish probable cause for marijuana before searching for marijuana. Where is the probable cause?

 

[Glocktogo]

Why not? Where is the urgency?

The eager explanation the Lieutenant gave for all the drama (handcuffing, stuffing in the back of a police vehicle) is, and I quote nearly verbatim:
"Traffic stops are the most dangerous thing we do! You would be amazed how quickly it can go from routine to extreme!"

In that case, why undertake the most dangerous evolution you can make over something so inconsequential? Just send an email. For that matter just look up the car owner's address (doesn't really matter who is driving the car) and send a snail mail. Where is the urgency? That solves the problem of alerting the car owner without placing either the driver or the officer in any unnecessary danger.

If danger is really the reason for all that drama.

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

What's the term for a male "Karen"?

 

[L.C.]

What's the term for a male "Karen"?

Daren