Zimmerman's lawyers drop him

[farmerbyron]

Every case is different...in this case if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and not followed Martin on foot, as the dispatcher suggested, we wouldn't be discussing any of this today. Period. Full Stop.

The main reason this has become a firestorm is the story was reported as a little black kid was gunned down by a large grown man. I do not think race played one iota in this but when Sharpton, Jackson, and the black panthers jumped in the facts went out the window. It has become mob rule and Zimmerman will have a very difficult time receiving a fair trail because an acquittal will result in rioting and threats to the jurors.

 

[Glocktogo]

They'dliterally have to pull homeless people out from under bridges to find 12 people not biased by the shoddy media reporting on this case.

 

[SMS]

The main reason this has become a firestorm is the story was reported as a little black kid was gunned down by a large grown man. I do not think race played one iota in this but when Sharpton, Jackson, and the black panthers jumped in the facts went out the window. It has become mob rule and Zimmerman will have a very difficult time receiving a fair trail because an acquittal will result in rioting and threats to the jurors.

My point was there would be no story at all if he hadn't pursued Martin in the first place.

Even without the race baiting and media manipulation Zimmerman is not squeaky clean. Individual responsibility comes first. Armed citizens have the responsibility to avoid confrontations. I think he failed that test and is at least partially responsible for the resulting firestorm. IMHO, Zimmerman deserves to face charges but he equally deserves his day in court to prove his innocence...

I don't blame a dog for acting like a dog, and I don't blame the media and the race baiters for acting like media and race baiters....it's what they do, just don't give them any excuse to do so.

 

[Biggsly]

Riots in the FLA and elsewhere if Zimmerman is acquitted or mistrial. Don't want to see riots, but I am calling it right now.

Seen it before. I remember watching last time.

 

[Rajder]

My point was there would be no story at all if he hadn't pursued Martin in the first place.

Even without the race baiting and media manipulation Zimmerman is not squeaky clean. Individual responsibility comes first. Armed citizens have the responsibility to avoid confrontations. I think he failed that test and is at least partially responsible for the resulting firestorm. IMHO, Zimmerman deserves to face charges but he equally deserves his day in court to prove his innocence...

I don't blame a dog for acting like a dog, and I don't blame the media and the race baiters for acting like media and race baiters....it's what they do, just don't give them any excuse to do so.

Exactly.

Just saw that the Prosecutors affidavit claims that Zimmerman provoked the confrontation.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...ovoked-confrontation-with-trayvon-martin?lite

Also, everyone needs to remember that the media didn't get involved in this case because a black kid was killed. It got involved in this case because Zimmerman was never arrested or charged with a crime. At that point the race issues took off. If he would have been charged with manslaughter from the start we wouldn't be talking about this now. And it does bring the question up that if there is enough evidence to charge him with 2nd degree murder now, why wasn't he at least charged with manslaughter the first time around?

 

[Glocktogo]

My point was there would be no story at all if he hadn't pursued Martin in the first place.

Even without the race baiting and media manipulation Zimmerman is not squeaky clean. Individual responsibility comes first. Armed citizens have the responsibility to avoid confrontations. I think he failed that test and is at least partially responsible for the resulting firestorm. IMHO, Zimmerman deserves to face charges but he equally deserves his day in court to prove his innocence...

I don't blame a dog for acting like a dog, and I don't blame the media and the race baiters for acting like media and race baiters....it's what they do, just don't give them any excuse to do so.

I hold them fully responsible for their irresponsible behavior. if they did to me what they've done to Zimmerman, I'd sue every last single one of their sorry asses! What they've done is the personal equivalent of yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater.

 

[Biggsly]

Exactly.

Just saw that the Prosecutors affidavit claims that Zimmerman provoked the confrontation.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...ovoked-confrontation-with-trayvon-martin?lite

Also, everyone needs to remember that the media didn't get involved in this case because a black kid was killed. It got involved in this case because Zimmerman was never arrested or charged with a crime. At that point the race issues took off. If he would have been charged with manslaughter from the start we wouldn't be talking about this now. And it does bring the question up that if there is enough evidence to charge him with 2nd degree murder now, why wasn't he at least charged with manslaughter the first time around?

Of coarse the media telling America he was a white man was just for fun.

 

[farmerbyron]

Exactly.

Just saw that the Prosecutors affidavit claims that Zimmerman provoked the confrontation.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...ovoked-confrontation-with-trayvon-martin?lite

Also, everyone needs to remember that the media didn't get involved in this case because a black kid was killed. It got involved in this case because Zimmerman was never arrested or charged with a crime. At that point the race issues took off. If he would have been charged with manslaughter from the start we wouldn't be talking about this now. And it does bring the question up that if there is enough evidence to charge him with 2nd degree murder now, why wasn't he at least charged with manslaughter the first time around?

If you believe that, I have some ocean front property in Oklahoma I'd like to sell you. The media knows that race issues get ratings like nothing else and they jumped at the opportunity to report that a white guy gunned down an unarmed black boy. They didn't take the time to get it right because ratings=money and consequences be damned they were going to wring this story for all that it had. Add to that the immediate appearance of Sharpton, Jackson, and the black panthers and you have the perfect storm for a lynch mob and media frenzy. I'd be willing to bet my mortgage that if this were a little white boy that this would have only been a local story and no one in the media would have bothered because it would not stir the pot and made boo koo $$ like the story that they have portrayed.

It happens all the time that a suspect is not charged until weeks later to take in all the evidence so that the prosecution can feel confident enough to win a case. This case however, has had enormous outside pressure and this may have forced the prosecution to file charges when they otherwise wouldn't. As a result they likely have a weaker than normal case but went ahead with it to appease the lynch mob. It will be ugly if they can not secure a conviction in this case.

 

[dieseltech09]

Has a ME report been released? Cant they tell how close the gun was to the body when he was shot? Like point blank to the chest if Treyvon was on top of Zimmerman beating him or do I watch to much TV?

 

[soonersfan]

Exactly.

Just saw that the Prosecutors affidavit claims that Zimmerman provoked the confrontation.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...ovoked-confrontation-with-trayvon-martin?lite

Also, everyone needs to remember that the media didn't get involved in this case because a black kid was killed. It got involved in this case because Zimmerman was never arrested or charged with a crime. At that point the race issues took off. If he would have been charged with manslaughter from the start we wouldn't be talking about this now. And it does bring the question up that if there is enough evidence to charge him with 2nd degree murder now, why wasn't he at least charged with manslaughter the first time around?

That's a mighty big if. The police did investigate and were told by the DA not to press charges because there wasn't evidence to convict. The "special" investigator was sent in to appease the masses and calm the tension. There was never a doubt that an arrest would be made and charges would be brought.

Don't get me wrong, I think Zimmerman is an idiot who unnecessarily put himself in a bad situation. I have no idea what the actual facts of the case are any more than anyone who else. That hasn't stopped anyone from taking sides. I think he created a confrontation that he could have avoided and then, probably justifiably (at least legally) shot in self-defense. I would not be shocked to find out I'm wrong either. I don't know that anyone other than Zimmerman will ever know the whole truth about what happened there.

I hope that the real facts come out and that justice is served. I have no idea which outcome is justified but I do know it will be difficult if not impossible for Zimmerman to get a fair trial. How would you like to be a juror knowing that the Black Panthers may put a bounty on your head if you don't produce the right outcome? The whole thing is a mess, that's for sure.