It's amazing to me that the black panthers aren't considered a terrorist group like the Klan.
It's amazing to me that the black panthers aren't considered a terrorist group like the Klan.
Sadly, it's not amazing to me.
I also agree that if Zimmerman is acquitted (which I seriously do not think will happen now, for a variety of reasons), the fallout will be horrendous. I'm not sure that we'll see a repeat of the Rodney King verdict, but I'll also bet there will be literally SWARMS of police units all over the region when it is announced.
Actually wouldn't be a bit surprised to see "celebratory rioting" and destruction in the aftermath of a guilty verdict.
It is gonna be real interesting when the medical examiner / autopsy / toxicology reports on Martin & the medical reports on Zimmerman become public. If Martin has any sign of swelling or bruising on his fists [especially if there was drugs in his system] and Zimmerman had injuries to his nose & head... but none to his hands / knuckles....and especially if there are powder burns / contact burns on Martin's clothing or his hands from Zimmerman's gun.. then I think the prosecution is gonna have a difficult time making their case.
As a gun guy ready to defend myself day or night, if I were on the jury...the prosecution would have a extremely hard time trying to convince me that Zimmerman was being the aggressor. Because if Zimmerman was the aggressor, I can't ever see him allowing a complete stranger to get within 3 feet of him in the dark.... Break his nose,.... bash his head on the concrete several times risking a concussion, unconsciousness & a crushed skull capable of causing death,... then take the time & effort to call out for help just so he wouldn't have to use deadly force .... before finally drawing & using his weapon.
Knowing the 21 foot rule concerning a attacker with a knife, would any one of you guys have ever allowed a stranger in the dark to get within arms length-- close enough to get their hand on your weapon... much less beat you in a way that your skull could have been crushed and then have called for help before using your weapon... if your were being the 'aggressor'?
If Zimmerman goes to a jury trial... I think it will result in a hung jury. I can't see all 12 jurors voting guilty based on what we know so far.
As a gun guy ready to defend myself day or night, if I were on the jury...the prosecution would have a extremely hard time trying to convince me that Zimmerman was being the aggressor. Because if Zimmerman was the aggressor, I can't ever see him allowing a complete stranger to get within 3 feet of him in the dark.... Break his nose,.... bash his head on the concrete several times risking a concussion, unconsciousness & a crushed skull capable of causing death,... then take the time & effort to call out for help just so he wouldn't have to use deadly force .... before finally drawing & using his weapon.
Knowing the 21 foot rule concerning a attacker with a knife, would any one of you guys have ever allowed a stranger in the dark to get within arms length-- close enough to get their hand on your weapon... much less beat you in a way that your skull could have been crushed and then have called for help before using your weapon... if your were being the 'aggressor'?
If Zimmerman goes to a jury trial... I think it will result in a hung jury. I can't see all 12 jurors voting guilty based on what we know so far.
Remember though, you or someone like you will not be on the jury. A jury is just 12 people not smart enough to get out of jury duty. Part of the reason we get so many screwed up verdicts. They should probably restrict how you can get out of jury duty better so that we can get a jury that doesn't consist of retirees and unemployed people.
I read the Affidavit for Probable Cause, and it looks to me to be written in an inflammatory tone:
"when he was profiled by George Zimmerman"
Profiled in what way? Profiled by race? Profiled by behavior? Profiled by clothing? Profiled by age? I would think that in an affidavit you would have to at least provide a basic support to a claim like this.
"who didn't want the person he falsely assumed was going to commit a crime to get away"
At the point in time that Zimmerman had observed Martin, I think its reasonable to agree that he was "suspcious". By the nature of declaring someone suspicious you are asserting that their behavior needs more observation to decide if their behavior is oddly suspicous or criminally suspicous.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/interacti...vs-george-zimmerman-affidavit-probable-cause/
"when he was profiled by George Zimmerman"
Profiled in what way? Profiled by race? Profiled by behavior? Profiled by clothing? Profiled by age? I would think that in an affidavit you would have to at least provide a basic support to a claim like this.
"who didn't want the person he falsely assumed was going to commit a crime to get away"
At the point in time that Zimmerman had observed Martin, I think its reasonable to agree that he was "suspcious". By the nature of declaring someone suspicious you are asserting that their behavior needs more observation to decide if their behavior is oddly suspicous or criminally suspicous.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/interacti...vs-george-zimmerman-affidavit-probable-cause/
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I use the Josey Wales method of profiling:
Josie Wales: Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
Some of you just NEED Zimmerman to be innocent. Ever figure tharpt maybe, just maybe, he is guilty?
When this first started, I actually went and looked at google maps and also at the diagram the news put out about the gated community including the locations of Zimmermans vehicle and where Martin was shot along with the condo that Martin was walking towards.
After you listen to the 911 tapes and the description of where Martin was walking along with Zimmermans words, it sure does sound like Martin walked the normal straight path down the walkway towards his destination past Zimmerman's vehicle and when he turned the corner and Zimmerman lost sight, that's when he left his vehicle and gave chase. The confrontation happens just around the corner of that building where Martin was killed.
When I look at the map of the locations along with the other evidence, I can't reconcile any way that Zimmerman could have been "looking for an address" or "on his way BACK to his vehicle". I think that Zimmermans own description of what he claims happened will be the thing that ends up being most damning for him.
Here is what I posted before about the maps:
EDIT: WELL NEVERMIND... THE GOOGLE MAP LINK DOESN'T WORK AND THE MAP OF THE LOCATION THAT ORLANDO SENTINAL HAD UP IS GONE... ugh.
Has anyone mentioned in this thread yet about how SYG should have no bearing in this case, IF Zimmerman was fleeing when Martin allegedly attacked?
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Guilty of bad judgement for sure but i don't think the guy hunted down the kid in cold blood. What would be the motivation? Risk a life where you live in a gated community just to kill a punk kid. Makes no sense.
