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[Coded-Dude]

An interesting comment from a fan on the SI page where the article is posted: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/co...a-state-part-1-money/?sct=hp_t11_a2&eref=sihp

A Summary:
WHAT STANDS OUT:
If the scandal is so rampant and wide spread, and hundreds of people with knowledge, how did it take 10 years to come out?
Cash handed out freely in the locker room right after a game, with press and everyone else around? Again hundreds of people would have known.
Multiple sources in the OSU locker room and inside locker rooms across the nation have all said one thing, "No way this would take place in a locker room, it would be in the press within 5 minutes, let alone 10 years"
Starving players, when there are several meals provided by the athletic department? This just isn't true.
'Boosters became so pervasive after Miles took over that they began connecting with players even before they arrived on campus. (T. Boone Pickens, the school's most prominent booster, was not implicated in any improprieties by SI's sources.) Shaw says that after he decided to attend Oklahoma State in 2001 as a senior at Shawnee (Okla.) High, a booster gave him between $400 and $500."
The problem with that quote: Seymore Shaw originally signed with the University of Oklahoma as a partial qualifier his senior year of HS. He came to OSU in August after the season already started when OU did not give him a scholarship.
“Williams was shot to death in 2007 while a member of the Denver Broncos; Grant died in a car accident in ’05. Bell, DeGrate and Fields all denied getting illicit payments. Bowman did not respond to repeated requests for comment.”
The problem with that quote: Tatum Bell and Josh Fields both publicly stated they were never contacted by SI.
Less than 24 hours into the story and 2 ‘sources’ have claimed their quotes were twisted and manipulated. Pogi even states that he told Evans that the worse that happened at Oklahoma state was horsing around in the locker room.
"let me say this ti all of you, I was never paid or said anything negative about OSU, That Evens guy is trash for what he worte! He took what I said and flipped it to his own words! I never said anything about Bobby Reid, Defo, or John Talley! I am embarrassed and shamed of this articale! I was lied to about what this articale is about and for that I apologize to everyone for! This is something that will get resolved and I will see to that myself!" - Rodrick Johnson

ABOUT THE AUTHOR:
Thayer Evans played basketball at a school in Oklahoma. Evans was kicked out of school for stealing.
Evan's beat his wife, and there is currently a restraining order against him.
Evans was fired from the Houston Chronicle for lying on his resume
Evans was fired from Fox Sports for making up sources.
He is quite literally a lying, cheating, woman beating, thief. Excuse me if I don't take him at his word.
Just so there are no illusions about Thayer Evans and his thoughts about Oklahoma State:
“…a meltdown by seventh-year Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy is coming just like usual, as evidenced by his sixth-ranked team’s sloppy 38-26 victory Saturday against incompetent No. 22 Texas.”
“Even the rest of the college football world knows Gundy is bound for a debacle. It’s the unspoken reason no one is worried about the Cowboys winning the Big 12 championship, let alone the national title, this season.”
“Everyone is just waiting for Chokie State to once again live up to its nickname under Gundy.”
“Of course, Gundy’s biggest meltdown wasn’t even on a football field. It was four years ago, when he infamously yelled, “I’m a man! I’m 40!” while berating a female newspaper columnist for what she had written. Yet despite his knack for meltdowns, a solemn Gundy managed to avoid one Saturday when asked whether he was haunted by his past failures. “No,” Gundy said. “It’s a new season.” But it’s still the same Gundy, always on the verge of a disaster.”
“And if this season is going to be any different for Gundy, even one of his best players can’t tell you why. When asked why people should believe that Oklahoma State won’t disappoint, Weeden was at a loss for words. “I don’t know,” Weeden said. “We’re not worried about it.” Weeden actually makes a good point. You can’t worry about what’s inevitable.”
http://www.pistolsfiringblog.com/thayer-evans-takes-down-oklahoma-state

Jason Whitlock ‏ @WhitlockJason: My God, this might be the journalistic crime of the century. Boomer Sooner got to write takedown of Okie State. Unreal. #plushesahack
Jason Whitlock ‏@WhitlockJason Yes, I'm not speculating about his incompetence. RT @MinnickTaylor: Wasn't Thayer Evans a colleague of yours over at Fox Sports
http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/post.aspx/Jason_Whitlock_slams_SI_writer_Thayer_Evans/11-22173
“But then in addition to that, having worked with Thayer Evans at Fox Sports, having followed his work for some time, I am completely and utterly flabbergasted that a legitimate news outlet would allow Thayer Evans to be involved in some type of investigative piece on college football that tears down a program, and particularly one that tears down Oklahoma State when it is no secret what a huge, enormous, gigantic Oklahoma homer Thayer Evans is. This is just incredible. Knowing the lack of competence that’s there with Thayer Evans, knowing the level of simplemindedness that’s there with Thayer Evans, to base any part of the story on his reporting is mind-boggling. … When I learned Thayer Evans was involved, I just said, there’s no way I’ll read this because there’s no reason to trust this reporter on anything of any substance. If you go back and look at his track record of reporting and the consistent controversy that surrounds his reporting – he made a name for himself at the New York Times by writing these annual stories about some top high school football recruit that he would buddy up to, follow around with a tape recorder and then report what some immature 17-year-old kid said about the recruiting process. These kids tended to come from single-parent families with the mother working and busy, so there wasn’t the normal oversight and anybody with a brain could see the exploitation that was taking place. … It doesn’t surprise me there are sources in this story saying the reporting was heavy-handed and leading. I don’t want to make the whole thing about Thayer Evans, but there’s just no way to avoid it. I’ve worked with him. He’s simpleminded. He’s a hack that can’t write. This isn’t personal, I promise. I have no reason to dislike Thayer Evans personally, and I don’t. But I’ve read enough of his work this guy isn’t qualified for this job and by now Sports Illustrated and anybody else should be well aware of this. Type his name into Google, read his previous work, read how his previous work has been debunked and there’s just no surprise. This story will be shrouded in controversy.”
“ … Let me end by saying this and I honestly mean this without malice. It wouldn’t shock me if Thayer Evans couldn’t spell cat and I say in all seriousness.”– Jason Whitlock


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/co...10/oklahoma-state-part-1-money/#ixzz2eWXsicVS

 

[SMS]

If the scandal is so rampant and wide spread, and hundreds of people with knowledge, how did it take 10 years to come out?

Why did it take so long? Probably because in reality everyone, including the NCAA, knows this stuff is happening everywhere at every level. Once and awhile someone shines a light on it and people get all aghast and pretend at "fixing" the problem...when in reality nothing gets fixed (does anything actually need to be fixed? I don't give a crap if some college ball player got paid) and everything goes right back the way it was.

The only people who really got all hot and bothered by it are the rabid fans of whichever university is being highlighted (most of whom probably never even attended any university, let alone the scandalized one) who get all "OH NOES, NOT XXXX UNIVERSITY! They wouldn't do that!".

Anyone that thinks high dollar sports programs don't find ways to entice and reward their players is a fool.

 

[SoonerBorn]

An interesting comment from a fan on the SI page where the article is posted: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130910/oklahoma-state-part-1-money/?sct=hp_t11_a2&eref=sihp

It wasn't that interesting.

 

[SoonerBorn]

Btw, I hope you guys know I'm busting balls.

 

[Okie4570]

Btw, I hope you guys know I'm busting balls.

I come to OSA everyday, with my jock on, and a box of kleenex to wipe away tears of from the constant butthurt. LOL

 

[SoonerBorn]

I come to OSA everyday, with my jock on, and a box of kleenex to wipe away tears of from the constant butthurt. LOL

Attaboy!

 

[Hobbes]

An interesting comment from a fan on the SI page where the article is posted: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/co...a-state-part-1-money/?sct=hp_t11_a2&eref=sihp

You left out that Thayer Evans was a writer for Sooner Illustrated from 2003_2006.
Here are some of the stories he wrote that show that:
http://search.scout.com/a.z?s=146&p=4&c=1&search=1&sskey="Thayer Evans"&sssiteid=146

 

[SoonerBorn]

You left out that Thayer Evans was a writer for Sooner Illustrated from 2003_2006.
Here are some of the stories he wrote that show that:
http://search.scout.com/a.z?s=146&p=4&c=1&search=1&sskey=%22Thayer%20Evans%22&sssiteid=146

Nothing new there. That's common knowledge among folks that pay attention to college football.

 

[Coded-Dude]

 

[Hobbes]

Apparently most or all of the interviews were conducted by Thayer Evans and those were the source for what Dohrman wrote.
Several of the players interviewed are saying that Evans lied to them about what the article was about to get them to talk and then twisted their words around.

Even more interesting, Tatum Bell says he never talked to anyone from SI and SI says they have tape of ALL the players quoted.
Somebody's lyin and it will come out.

I like how they quote Girtman who was kicked off the team for "unspecified team violations" and trash two dead players and three dead boosters who can't defend themselves.


Edit to Add: I do believe some of the allegations but Evans is clearly pushing an agenda to discredit OSU and Les Miles.