LOL. I've seen them in quite a few matches actually.
You do have to have them tuned by a competent gunsmith, preferably someone with Saiga experience.
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LOL. I've seen them in quite a few matches actually.
You do have to have them tuned by a competent gunsmith, preferably someone with Saiga experience.
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Benelli, Montefeltro is the lightest, fastest, most reliable gun with an added benefit of left handed with a couple of more bucks.
The ones I have been around have been built by Jack Travers and Jim Lambert, two of the Saiga pioneers. Guess it is hit or miss on those, mostly miss.
I'm more of a "double gun" enthusiast and not really a semi-auto shooter, although I have had a few Remington 1100's in the past that were pretty good guns and I've heard the 11-87 is even more reliable and versatile. If you'll be shooting a variety of loads, the 11-87's will handle anything from light 2 3/4" to 3" heavies; something the 1100 doesn't do as well/consistently without a barrel change to obtain the proper size gas ports.
My business partner has a Franchi I-12 (which is like the Benelli's and Stroeger's) that feeds light field and heavy water foul or turkey loads pretty reliably and seems to be quite durable; we used to shoot a lot of "pasture clays". We recently presented a Winchester SX-3 to our production manager; he has yet to fire it, so I have no first hand knowledge of it's performance or reliability, but I've heard a lot of good things about the SX-3.
The choices are numerous and seem to only be limited by your budget and which gun fits you (physically) and your needs the best.
Good luck in your quest and as stated before; I'll help if possible.
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If you want to see some gun gold, go to champlinarms.com in Enid, and feast your eyes on guns ranging up to $35000+
Maybe a Merkel 16 ga?
Thats OK, I don't need to make my eye's bleed!!!
Remington 1187 $600, Benelli M2 $800(on sale at Academy) Beretta 391 $1100 just depends on your budget. The Stogers and Franchi are both good as well. Beretta owns Benelli, Franchi and Stoger.
In all the shotgun teaching I do both in the U.S. and abroad the one single shotgun that gives the most problem hands down, far more than ANY other type of shotgun is the much touted 870...I would NEVER own one!! I know this flys in the face of the "standard" answer, but after I have experienced how "great" this P.O.S. is first hand I can only think that because all the cops "used one" it has to be great.....well they NEVER used em very much or they wouldn't have them either!
As to the question at hand.... Renato Gamba makes the best shotgun...or so I am told! KurtM
As to the question at hand.... Renato Gamba makes the best shotgun...or so I am told! KurtM
I am LEO, and I have a rem 870 w/18" barrel that I had threaded for choke tubes. Have carried on duty, qualified, shot skeet, turkey hunted, rabbit hunted, squirrel hunted, and even killed a couple of white tails with it and it has never malfunctioned. In 15 yrs, it has eaten approximately 10,000 rnds of different kinds, from 3" buckshot to 2&3/4 #9s. Has been exposed to untold abuse, from horseback to cruiser to pick up, mud,ice,rain,horse sweat, dirt,even had a drunk puke on it once. I have only owned one, so I can't speak for the rest of them out there, but mine is a damn good one.
I've found that a lot of 870's, including the "better" Police Magnums and Wingmasters often need tuning to run reliably. They can be made to run very smooth and tend to be reliable then, though I don't care for the minimal staking of the two bars inset into the receiver sideplates. They routinely come unstaked and then it's a PITA to reassemble the gun.
Out of the box, I think the Mossberg 590's are more reliable. They don't have that silky smooth action everyone likes, but they're tough! Of course the Benelli Novas seem smooth AND reliable. I'm just not fond of the one piece stock/receiver setup and the feel of the slide.
I know I'm an oddball, but one of these days I'll have a Ruger Red Label; all I know who have them love them, built like a tank and seem well balanced. I've shot skeet with a 20 ga. unit, and it was smooth and pointed easy - and I did a pretty fair job hitting clay birds with it.
Asking "what's the best shotgun" is like asking what the best vehicle is: you're going to get a wide variety of answers, depending on many factors, including biases.
Asking "what's the best shotgun" is like asking what the best vehicle is: you're going to get a wide variety of answers, depending on many factors, including biases.
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