Between yalls numbers and googles I'd say it looks like mayyybe gas trucks may be getting more suited for hauling loads again. Those torque numbers will help. I've gotten spoiled with my 2010 6.7 Cummins. My trailer weighs 9k and I often have 17k-20k pounds of beef loaded in the trailer and if I don't ease the clutch out real gentle leaving a light or stop sign it'll crack the back tires. Since Ram is officially ditching the Manual trans there is a pretty good chance I'll go back to Ford when this truck is done or one of my daughters says they want it.