Airport Screening Abuse Growing

[doctorjj]

I want to start an airline that allows and encourages weapons. No special checking in of weapons. Just tote it on the plane with you.

 

[vvvvvvv]

I agree, this is not avoidance. This will hit the airlines in the pocket book. The airlines have more influence on TSA than individuals.

The idea of everyone refusing body scans would be great. Gridlock.

We can just bail them out (again).

The choice between being seen naked or being groped is degrading and unjust.

Such injustice left unchallenged only gets worse.

This is a reason I'm considering getting a pilot's license if I ever make the money for it. It sure is a good incentive.

If I wanted to be seen naked or groped by a stranger, I'd make a porno (outside of Oklahoma, of course). At least I could get some money out of it.

You can argue that our government shouldn't be providing security for private business, but that is a different discussion.

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How is this that different than places with no gun signs? Many people here consider the ability to defend themselves a right. Businesses are allowed to say guns aren't allowed. People are allowed to not do business with those places.

This.

As far as the patriot act backed "invasions of privacy," I don't care who sees my "shortcomings." If they stop one terrorist induced aircraft loss, I think it's all worth it.

So you support greasing the slippery slope?

 

[vvvvvvv]

I want to start an airline that allows and encourages weapons. No special checking in of weapons. Just tote it on the plane with you.

They'd still have to be in a locked container according to federal law.

Does a thumb-break holster count as a locked container?

 

[doctorjj]

They'd still have to be in a locked container according to federal law.

Does a thumb-break holster count as a locked container?

Even on a private plane?

 

[criticalbass]

We can just bail them out (again).



Just when did we bail out the airlines? CB

 

[Wall]

They'd still have to be in a locked container according to federal law.

Does a thumb-break holster count as a locked container?

Could the plane itself suffice as a locked container?

 

[bettingpython]

don't know about you but seems to me like these low density scanners come awful close to taking a practically naked snap shot. way better than what an xray or ct scan does.

http://info-wars.org/2010/02/09/exp...ilm-star-printed-circulated-by-airport-staff/

 

[Razur]

I seem to recall there was a TSA employee who went postal on another TSA employee for harassing him about his "equipment" which was seen via the scanners.

So there is clearly a precedent for TSA employees not acting professionally.

Like many here, I'm not worried about people giggling about my equipment size since I'm not likely to see that person again. However, what about those who work there? I don't need the people I work with knowing about all my piercings, equipment size, etc.

It has been a while since I've been on a plane, so I don't take this personally right now. I do however, see the slippery slope as others have indicated.

 

[Dale00]

If you refuse to allow your child to be scanned, your child will have their genitals touched. Still think I'm exaggerating or these reports are inaccurate?

Privacy groups have challenged the new body scanners in court, saying they are a violation of privacy and illegal. Lawmakers plan to hold hearings on aviation security next week when they return to Washington.

Some travelers are also livid about how children are being screened. During a trip last Sunday by a father and son through Orlando airport in Florida, the 8-year-old boy was selected for extra screening by TSA after going through the metal detector.

The father said the officer described the procedure before conducting it. Then he patted down the boy in the open security area, using the backside of his hands to check his genital area, he said.

"I didn't think it was going to be as horrible as he was describing," said the boy's father, Bill, who works as a lobbyist in Washington and did not want his full name used.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AA55S20101111?ref=nf

 

[prophet]

Those scanners are a joke, i had to take off my belt to go through it, not just the buckle like i always do, if i can i avoid them but in salt lake city it was the only thing open. They also made me take my laptop out of my airport friendly case and turn it on, again something i have never done before.