Another P320 firing by itself incident. Injured police officer.

[Shadowrider]

I don't think so. There are too many instances of it happening to holstered pistols from officers in different departments. I doubt they're all using the same holster.

There's something wrong in the design or maybe the assembly of this gun. I don't know what that might be, but it's definitely a gun problem.

This is where I'm at. Way too many instances for me. I've seen several videos and not one of them lacked some interaction of jostling the gun in the holster. But still, something is up and I just find it far too common. I have one but it's strictly a range gun. Too many other good options out there to have this issue in your head all the time. When and if they figure it out I'd be open to changing my mind.

 

[Sgt Dog]

I really like mine - which makes these all the more disappointing. In fact my Milt Spark holster just arrived the other day. So, no carry with a round in the chamber with this gun!

Stories like these sure don’t up the price you could get for them.

 

[Gadsden]

Sig had a voluntary safety upgrade that, I believe, fixed this problem. I'm curious if the agencies in this video sent their weapons back to Sig so the problem could be corrected.

 

[mtngunr]

Sig had a voluntary safety upgrade that, I believe, fixed this problem. I'm curious if the agencies in this video sent their weapons back to Sig so the problem could be corrected.

That, if true, sounds suspiciously like Glock, when their early guns definitely went full auto, along with assorted other socially unacceptable behaviors, them never issuing a recall due to what it would do to their then growing LE sales, which also left bunches of average Joes who never heard about the upgrade and their guns still floating around out there on the used market.

I still avoid trash talking an entire platform without further data, as guns can, and do, fail for a variety of causes. Folk pooh-pooh the Colt Series 80 firing pin safety, and I did, too, until I had a new Colt minus that safety blow a hole in my mattress when chambering a round, it was a defective/soft/outside sourced MIM hammer whose notch wore down in only a few hundred rounds, and also the sear spring tension was inadequate, so when the slide slammed home, the hammer fell and sear did not move fast enough to catch it. But, I don't trash all non-Series 80 Colts or copies as deathtraps.

 

[Matt Giroux]

The primary issue with the department issued guns was that their internals came from an sig shop outside the US and was assembled here. This kept overhead down so they could offer them to departments for cheaper price per unit. Cheaper thinly made sears slipping and allowing firing pin to drop was one issue. A second was one of the most widely used LE holsters, Safariland, had an issue where the rear of the holster near the trigger guard had a large (3/4” or better) gap. Things could and did get in that gap and one way or another the trigger was manipulated and caused the gun to fire.

The cheaper guts on LE guns is main cause of issue, hence why this hasn’t been a rampant issue with civilian owned guns…or the military issued ones.

 

[hunter966]

I've not seen a 320, do they not have a thumb safety?

Bing that pd’s are using them I’m guessing they don’t.

 

[mtngunr]

The primary issue with the department issued guns was that their internals came from an sig shop outside the US and was assembled here. This kept overhead down so they could offer them to departments for cheaper price per unit. Cheaper thinly made sears slipping and allowing firing pin to drop was one issue. A second was one of the most widely used LE holsters, Safariland, had an issue where the rear of the holster near the trigger guard had a large (3/4” or better) gap. Things could and did get in that gap and one way or another the trigger was manipulated and caused the gun to fire.

The cheaper guts on LE guns is main cause of issue, hence why this hasn’t been a rampant issue with civilian owned guns…or the military issued ones.

Do you have links showing that? It matches exactly what I said as for large contract gun runs having possibly some defect that others lacked past happenstance overrun going elsewhere.

 

[Matt Giroux]

Do you have links showing that? It matches exactly what I said as for large contract gun runs having possibly some defect that others lacked past happenstance overrun going elsewhere.

Go check the packaging/place of origin on sig sauer OEM parts, India.
There are plenty of forum links for it on sig talk among others. An official news story? Hell no, sig wouldn’t let that happen. But also know former sig rep that openly admitted it, one of the reasons he left them after that stunt.

 

[Shadowrider]

Sig had a voluntary safety upgrade that, I believe, fixed this problem. I'm curious if the agencies in this video sent their weapons back to Sig so the problem could be corrected.

There are two problems that people get confused about. This was a drop safe issue. They could fire if dropped and it landed a certain way. They did pass all the normal drop safe testing prior to release and this corrects that. Drop safe is old hat and has long since been fixed. Going off uncommanded in holsters is a completely different issue.

Also the P365 doesn't have any of this going on and I wouldn't be concerned at all about them.

 

[Matt Giroux]

There are two problems that people get confused about. This was a drop safe issue. They could fire if dropped and it landed a certain way. They did pass all the normal drop safe testing prior to release and this corrects that. Drop safe is old hat and has long since been fixed. Going off uncommanded in holsters is a completely different issue.

Also the P365 doesn't have any of this going on and I wouldn't be concerned at all about them.

Same, I’ve carried a p365, SAS model and now XL and had zero issues on my person, in a gym bag with a proper holster, jostling around on a quad etc.