I was misinformed.
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I'm no attorney but I would think that if someone built a one-off replica of a product with no intent to profit from it that it would not be seen as copyright infringement. Dave didn't say he was going to setup a manufacturing facility and create bumpfire stocks by the boatload.
In the words of the great Paul Harvey:
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In the words of the great Paul Harvey:
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Calm down buddy. He ain't selling your dreams. If I'm not mistaken he was complimenting you. Save the BS for slidefire, not consumers.
I was talking about making one for myself, which requires no patent. Never said I wanted to make them and sell them.
You know, I used to feel bad for you, Bill. I thought you really got screwed over by the powers that be, but now I think maybe it was just karma.
Makes me think of this song:
If I do make one, I'll be sure to send you a video link to me exercising my right to do whatever the Hell I want to in this free country of ours.
That's like Kalashnikov being mad at me for bending my own AK receiver.
You know, I used to feel bad for you, Bill. I thought you really got screwed over by the powers that be, but now I think maybe it was just karma.
Makes me think of this song:
If I do make one, I'll be sure to send you a video link to me exercising my right to do whatever the Hell I want to in this free country of ours.
That's like Kalashnikov being mad at me for bending my own AK receiver.
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It would seem some people are unaware of U.S. patent law regarding infringement.
Here is the law straight from the U.S. patent office website and I include the link to the law at the U.S. patent website as well.
"35 U.S.C. 271 Infringement of patent.
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this title, whoever without authority makes, uses, offers to sell, or sells any patented invention, within the United States, or imports into the United States any patented invention during the term of the patent therefor, infringes the patent.
(b) Whoever actively induces infringement of a patent shall be liable as an infringer."
That also means anyone who encourages someone else to infringe upon a patent. Such as posting at a website telling how they made one for their selves and encouraging others to do the same would be actively inducing infringement.
And here's the link to patent infringement law from the U.S. patent office website so you can read it there also.
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/appxl_35_U_S_C_271.htm
As we all can see, whoever without authority (without licensing a patent) makes, uses, (makes or uses even for their own use, the law makes no distinction between making and using for one's own use or doing so to market it) is illegally infringing on a patent. I didn't make this up guys. This is the law.
I hope this clears up any misunderstanding some people may have who erroneously think it is legal for them for them to make and use something for their own use that is patented by someone else.
Super Dave, rather than erroneously posting that you can make one for your own use when the law clearly says that is illegal infringement of a patent, and then calling me names and posting videos designed to insult me, perhaps you might try reading the law instead.
Super Dave, whether you realize it or not, you insulted me in your post in this thread when you threatened to make for your own use, an illegal, patent infringing, copy of the springless Fostech Outdoors Bumpski stock (that is now covered under my patent since Fostech Outdoors purchased my patent) and further insulted me when you said if my former spring activated bumpfire stocks were still legal that you would make a copy of them too. Then you further insulted me again calling me names and posting videos designed to insult me. I hope after reading the law you as well as others here, realize this now and will stop with the insults and be informed of patent infringement law.
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Here is the law straight from the U.S. patent office website and I include the link to the law at the U.S. patent website as well.
"35 U.S.C. 271 Infringement of patent.
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this title, whoever without authority makes, uses, offers to sell, or sells any patented invention, within the United States, or imports into the United States any patented invention during the term of the patent therefor, infringes the patent.
(b) Whoever actively induces infringement of a patent shall be liable as an infringer."
That also means anyone who encourages someone else to infringe upon a patent. Such as posting at a website telling how they made one for their selves and encouraging others to do the same would be actively inducing infringement.
And here's the link to patent infringement law from the U.S. patent office website so you can read it there also.
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/appxl_35_U_S_C_271.htm
As we all can see, whoever without authority (without licensing a patent) makes, uses, (makes or uses even for their own use, the law makes no distinction between making and using for one's own use or doing so to market it) is illegally infringing on a patent. I didn't make this up guys. This is the law.
I hope this clears up any misunderstanding some people may have who erroneously think it is legal for them for them to make and use something for their own use that is patented by someone else.
Super Dave, rather than erroneously posting that you can make one for your own use when the law clearly says that is illegal infringement of a patent, and then calling me names and posting videos designed to insult me, perhaps you might try reading the law instead.
Super Dave, whether you realize it or not, you insulted me in your post in this thread when you threatened to make for your own use, an illegal, patent infringing, copy of the springless Fostech Outdoors Bumpski stock (that is now covered under my patent since Fostech Outdoors purchased my patent) and further insulted me when you said if my former spring activated bumpfire stocks were still legal that you would make a copy of them too. Then you further insulted me again calling me names and posting videos designed to insult me. I hope after reading the law you as well as others here, realize this now and will stop with the insults and be informed of patent infringement law.
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I did not start this thread Kiyot. Peanut did. Are you saying that as a member I cannot respond to a thread started by someone else? Further, I do not have to live in Oklahoma to be a member here and I have been a member here for a year and two months. I am not advertising "MY" product because it is not "my" product. It is Fostech Outdoors product and I personally am not in the Fostech corporation. I just sold my patent to them. Finally what I post on other firearm forums is irrelevant.
Besides trying to cast dispersions upon me, your points were incorrect and irrelevant.
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This is Peanut's thread, and his, mine and others posts shouldn't be penalized by being locked because of the ignorance of the law and uncalled for insults of some members. If you were going to ask for the thread to be locked, that should have been done when members were posting ignorant of patent infringement law and being insulting. Not after I posted what the law says as well as posted links to the U.S. patent website regarding what the law is regarding patent infringement which should put an end to that ignorance of the law and insults by members here. Since I have posted that law, that should take care of the insults and ignorance of patent law exhibited by some members, and hopefully we won't have any more trouble at this thread and can stay on the subject matter track of the new Fostech Outdoors "Bumpski" bumpfire stock.
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Since I started this thread, I'll say if I wanted to make something I'd do whatever the heck i wanted to.
I'll personally never buy a bumpfire stock but find them fascinating. I can bump fire without some gadget stocks.
Bill, I'm sorry you got screwed on the first stock, but since then others have made bumpfire stocks.
It's an extremely simple design. Good luck with your ventures.
I'll personally never buy a bumpfire stock but find them fascinating. I can bump fire without some gadget stocks.
Bill, I'm sorry you got screwed on the first stock, but since then others have made bumpfire stocks.
It's an extremely simple design. Good luck with your ventures.
Wow $450 bucks? does it give reach around's?
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