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Besides, it's much cheaper to buy a fireman than to buy a cop. Doughnuts iz spensive. ;)

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I don't get peoples obsession with documentation. Would you do the same for a knife, or for that matter an old TV? A firearm is simply private property as far as the state and feds are concerned when selling within the state. Myself, I would walk away from a buy if anyone wanted anything from me but the cash we agreed on. For all the bitching we do about being over documented and wanting more firearm freedoms, documentation from a private sell seems silly. IMHO
 

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I've given my info once to purchase a firearm to a non dealer. I don't like random individuals keeping record of my information. How do I know they aren't a crook. I mean some of you are pretty scary individuals. like badgebunny and reddog. I'm afraid dog would turn me into a tin foil hatter...and I can blame BB for me gaining weight from when I was spoiled with baked goods right?
 

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Yeah, I dont get it.. If the feedback is good and all goes well i just do the deal like anything else. Most of us on here have bought and sold with ease based on feedback alone. Lots of LEO and pretty good judges of character and report as needed. Its a deal breaker for me to provide anything more than a name, handshake and payment unless dealing with dealers. However, if said person were to pay for the transfer I might go for that if the deal is worth the hassle.
 

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I don't get peoples obsession with documentation. Would you do the same for a knife, or for that matter an old TV? A firearm is simply private property as far as the state and feds are concerned when selling within the state. Myself, I would walk away from a buy if anyone wanted anything from me but the cash we agreed on. For all the bitching we do about being over documented and wanting more firearm freedoms, documentation from a private sell seems silly. IMHO

If you ever buy a weapon without a good billl of sale and end-up using that weapon for self defense.. then a police ballistics test shows that gun had previously been used in a shooting or homicide, .... you will be darn sure wishing you had a good signed & dated bill of sale. If you can't prove where, when & from whom you bought it... your world could get really wacked for a long time.

Plus if you buy a gun for several hundred $'s, then the guy who sold it to you turns around and reports it as stolen to the police and tells them that he knows who has it.... what are you gonna do without a good bill of sale? He might just end-up getting your money, his gun back... and you go to jail. I get a dated bill of sale for anything I buy of value that has a serial #.

Pawn shops get burned the most by stolen property being sold to them. Over the years, due to legal demands.. they have determined the minimum amount of info required for each purchase in order to protect themselves. It would be wise to benefit from the Pawnshop industry's dealings concerning private purchases of valuable items.
 

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So, there's a gun used in a homicide, then to think someone would actually sell it, then even further that that same gun would get used by an individual in self defense, then for some reason the police runs ballistics studies on gun used for self defense, then all that info gets put together, then..... what a movie that would make. I think I'll win the mega lottery twice before that happens to me.

Having said that very long sentence, one should do what feels right to them. I'll never fault anyone for that. With the high volume pawn shops deal in, of course they run into that kind of thing. That and they buy anything from anyone with an ID. If I show up to a gun buy and a 20 something year old kid with his hat on sideways gets out of the car, I'm probably walking away from that sale too. If the guy has tats running up his neck, I'll probably walk away. Though I might run away from those two. Pawn shops, on the other hand, buy from these types all the time.
 

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I wrote the gun serial number on my bill of sale, name of seller, name of purchaser, sign and date. I check the ID to make sure the name matches up and thats it.
 

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If you ever buy a weapon without a good billl of sale and end-up using that weapon for self defense.. then a police ballistics test shows that gun had previously been used in a shooting or homicide, .... you will be darn sure wishing you had a good signed & dated bill of sale. If you can't prove where, when & from whom you bought it... your world could get really wacked for a long time.

Plus if you buy a gun for several hundred $'s, then the guy who sold it to you turns around and reports it as stolen to the police and tells them that he knows who has it.... what are you gonna do without a good bill of sale? He might just end-up getting your money, his gun back... and you go to jail. I get a dated bill of sale for anything I buy of value that has a serial #.

Pawn shops get burned the most by stolen property being sold to them. Over the years, due to legal demands.. they have determined the minimum amount of info required for each purchase in order to protect themselves. It would be wise to benefit from the Pawnshop industry's dealings concerning private purchases of valuable items.

Anyone can make up a bill of sale...

If the guy has tats running up his neck, I'll probably walk away. Though I might run away from those two.

Hey now, I was thinking about my next tattoo being somewhere on my neck. And I'm a pretty nice guy most days.
 

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