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[Crosstimbers Okie]

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Senate Breaks the Cruz-Lee Filibuster of the Anti-gun ObamaCare Law
Friday, 27 September 2013 19:39
Written by Gun Owners


Senate Breaks the Cruz-Lee Filibuster of the Anti-gun ObamaCare Law

-- The battle moves back to the House

“The only way to avert disaster is to fully repeal this anti-gun, ObamaCare monstrosity. [At] a minimum, funding for ObamaCare should cease immediately.” -- GOA statement in postcards landing on congressional desks over the past several weeks

The Senate today, by a vote of 79-19, overcame the Cruz-Lee filibuster that was aimed at defunding the anti-gun ObamaCare law. The Senate action allowed Majority Leader Harry Reid to amend the Continuing Resolution by reinserting funds for ObamaCare -- funding that the House had stripped out last week.

Many of the speeches today on the Democrat side of the aisle lambasted Senators Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Mike Lee (RUT) for trying to “slow down the legislative process” and for threatening a government shutdown.

What each speaker ignored, however, was that Senate Democrats could have passed the House version of the bill (without funding for ObamaCare) and sent it to the President TODAY. This would definitely have avoided the very shutdown they were supposedly trying to avert.

The battle now moves back to the House where Republicans will have to decide whether they are going to stand tough or give in to Harry Reid’s wishes.

This fight is incredibly important. Some pundits think that the implementation of ObamaCare will result in the health care system “falling apart on its weight.” So they say we shouldn't fight this now, because losing today will result in us winning tomorrow.

The problem with that thinking is this: Can anyone name just one example of socialism that, once implemented in this country, was later fully repealed? One would be hard-pressed to think of such an example.

The consequences for gun owners -- once ObamaCare is implemented -- will be immense. Once the government starts using medical maladies (such as PTSD, ADHD, etc.) as reasons to put our names in the NICS system, will those names ever be removed?

Just ask the more than 150,000 military veterans how it’s going for them!

That’s why fighting this anti-gun monstrosity RIGHT NOW -- before this law gets implemented -- is so important.

ACTION:

1) In the Senate: Hold accountable those Senators, who voted AGAINST Cruz and Lee on the filibuster -- especially, Republican Senators. They are:

Lamar Alexander (R-TN)

Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)

John Barrasso (R-WY)

Roy Blunt (R-MO)

John Boozman (R-AR)

Richard Burr (R-NC)

Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)

Jeff Chiesa (R-NJ)

Dan Coats (R-IN)

Tom Coburn (R-OK)

Thad Cochran (R-MS)

Susan Collins (R-ME)

Bob Corker (R-TN)

John Cornyn (R-TX)

Lindsey Graham (R-SC)

John Hoeven (R-ND)

John Isakson (R-GA)

Mike Johanns (R-NE)

Ron Johnson (R-WI)

Mark Kirk (R-IL)

John McCain (R-AZ)

Mitch McConnell(R-TN)

Lisa Murkowski(R-AK)

John Thune (R-SD)

Roger Wicker (R-MS)

You can tell these Senators: “Don’t tell me that you oppose the anti-gun ObamaCare law, given that you voted to end the CruzLee filibuster! By voting to ‘cloture’ the bill, you allowed ObamaCare to be funded by only 51 votes. Don’t give me a year’s worth of pronouncements as to how you oppose ObamaCare, because when it really came down to the vote that counted, you bailed. Shame on you. I will ‘remember in November!’”

2) In the House: Please urge your Representative to OPPOSE the Senate-passed version of the Continuing Resolution. Tell them to support language which continues to defund ObamaCare or its mandate. You must act quickly, as the House could act as soonas Saturday or Sunday. Please email AND call (202-225-3121).

----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Representative:

I would urge you to OPPOSE the Senate-passed version of the Continuing Resolution and to support language which continues to defund ObamaCare or its mandate.

Not only that, I think the House should remove the exemption that keeps Congress and its staff from being subject to this disastrous law. They should have to live under this mandate the way everyone else does.

I agree with Gun Owners of America that if the government shuts down, it’s the fault of Senate Democrats who refuse to listen to 73% of the American people who want this anti-gun ObamaCare law fully or partially repealed.

Many of the speeches on the Democrat side of the aisle (in the Senate) lambasted Republicans like Ted Cruz (TX) and Mike Lee(UT) for trying to “slow down the legislative process” and for threatening a government shutdown.

What each speaker ignored, however, was that Senate Democrats could have passed the House version of the bill (without funding for ObamaCare) and immediately sent it to the President. This would definitely have avoided the very shutdown they were supposedly trying to avert.

Now that the battle has moved back to the House, Representatives will have to decide whether they are going to stand tough or give in to Harry Reid’s wishes.

This fight is incredibly important. Some pundits think that the implementation of ObamaCare will result in the health care system “falling apart on its weight.” So they say we shouldn’t fight this now, because losing today will result in us winning tomorrow.

The problem with that thinking is this: Can you name just one example of socialism that, once implemented in this country, was later fully repealed? You would be hard-pressed to think of such an example.

The consequences for gun owners -- once ObamaCare is implemented -- will be immense. Once the government starts using medical maladies (such as PTSD, ADHD, etc.) as reasons to put our names in the NICS background check system, will those names ever be removed?

Just ask the more than 150,000 military veterans how it’s going for them!

That’s why fighting this anti-gun monstrosity RIGHT NOW -- before this anti-gun law gets implemented -- is so important.

Please reject the Senate-passed Continuing Resolution and stand your ground. Vote for a CR that defunds the anti-gun ObamaCare!

Sincerely,

 

[otis147]

coburn's not running again, so he doesn't give a **** what we say. he'll do as he pleases.

 

[tran]

coburn's not running again, so he doesn't give a **** what we say. he'll do as he pleases.

He is interested in what he can put in his back pocket. I am curious what he sold us out for???? Maybe a relative will receive a nice Government contract out of it.

 

[TwoForFlinching]

There is a reason old timers say "Never vote for the incumbent"

 

[okietom]

I did not have the idea that there was a vote that could stop a filibuster. I understand the emotion behind this article but it isn't quite accurate.

The vote was not a vote against Cruz's filibuster. Cruz ended his filibuster himself. Once a senator has the floor he does not have to give it up and a vote does not occur while a senator has the floor.

The vote was a vote on procedure (cloture) and was not a vote against a filibuster.

 

[okietom]

I agree that no one should have voted for the procedure.

I always vote against the incumbent in a primary. When it gets to the general election I vote for the candidate that I agree with on the issues most important to me. I WILL NOT vote for a liberal Dimocrat if the Republican is an incumbent.

I may be an old timer now.

 

[vvvvvvv]

I did not have the idea that there was a vote that could stop a filibuster. I understand the emotion behind this article but it isn't quite accurate.

The vote was not a vote against Cruz's filibuster. Cruz ended his filibuster himself. Once a senator has the floor he does not have to give it up and a vote does not occur while a senator has the floor.

The vote was a vote on procedure (cloture) and was not a vote against a filibuster.

This.

GOA is worse than the NRA when it comes to fear-mongering. They really make gun owners look like a bunch of idiots by putting out headlines and releases that show ignorance.

Tell me, GOA members... how do you expect someone to lobby in your best interest when the organization puts out releases like this?

 

[okietom]

Fear mongering is a proven tactic that is the first one used by the enemies of gun owners. Fear mongering is why there is very little .22 ammo at my local Walmart. It works.

I have no problem with my side using it. As long as the goal is what I desire. Instilling some fear of what could happen is not that bad.

My wife and I are raising her grandson. He is six years old. We created a boogie man. His name was Jacko and he was a man that looked like a woman and did mean things to little boys. He wore a white glove on one hand. Fear mongering works. Our little guy would not leave the house after dark. Some voters do not have any more sense than a three year old and they have to be convinced in a manner they will grasp.

 

[vvvvvvv]

I have no problem with my side using it. As long as the goal is what I desire. Instilling some fear of what could happen is not that bad.

My problem is when "my side" is being dishonest with the public and their supporters.

People take articles like this and repost them as being completely factual. The "other side" just points and laughs at the idiots.

There's a line between a little exaggeration to instill fear, and blatant dishonesty. This crosses it.

And no, I don't agree with fear-mongering. It displays lack of integrity and lack of intellectual ability to make a firm argument regardless of if those are accurate reflections of the entity instilling unnecessary fear. When someone resorts to fear-mongering, they are essentially conceding the battle to their opponent.

 

[okietom]

You are right Veggie.

I can't abide with any dishonesty.

The NRA and most other pro gun groups are called fear mongers BY the real fear mongers after the pro gun people say "they want to take your guns away". That is the truth in almost all cases.

The real fear mongers lie when they say "no one wants to take your guns".

Both of those statements may be close to factual or even pure fact. Both statements are pandering to the uninformed and are not much better than an outright lie.

Both sides know they can't take your guns with the newest idea but they both also knows that it is a step in that direction. They are using facts to instill fear because they both know that emotion is the biggest factor in almost half of the voters. Logic and fact must also include emotion in order to win against pure emotion. That is why we have the fear mongering on our side too. That is why I am not completely against it. We have to win over some that decide on emotion alone.