Conn. School Shooting

[ripnbst]

One thing that no one in position of power seems to look at is the financial side of the AWB type weapons. There are entire companies who only make guns that will be affected by the AWB. DPMS, Bushmaster, LaRue, Knights Armament, Palmetto State Armory, 98% of Magpul's business et al.

These companies have employees who will all become basically unemployed by reinstating the AWB. These companies and the sales of their guns all generate valuable tax dollars. This country needs our "AWB gun" industry. So we'd be losing that tax revenue and then paying these people in the form of unemployment.

 

[OliverKlohzoff]

Here it comes... just officially announced.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/16/feinstein-to-introduce-assault-weapons-ban-bill/


"It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation, and the possession. Not retroactively, but prospectively. It will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets," she said. "There will be a bill."[/B]

Am I reading this right ? "It will ban the sale or transfer prospectively" ??? Is this a continuation of the Clinton era AWB where you could still sell previously purchased firearms or is this over and beyond that ? Does this mean we cannot transfer or sell an AR-15 or AK-47 bought previously ????

 

[JB Books]

Trapped between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea. The Republicans want to destroy my livelihood. The Democrats want to take away my right to own what firearms I choose. This sucks.

One thing that no one in position of power seems to look at is the financial side of the AWB type weapons. There are entire companies who only make guns that will be affected by the AWB. DPMS, Bushmaster, LaRue, Knights Armament, Palmetto State Armory, 98% of Magpul's business et al.

These companies have employees who will all become basically unemployed by reinstating the AWB. These companies and the sales of their guns all generate valuable tax dollars. This country needs our "AWB gun" industry. So we'd be losing that tax revenue and then paying these people in the form of unemployment.

 

[Street Rat]

Here it comes... just officially announced.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/16/feinstein-to-introduce-assault-weapons-ban-bill/

Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California said Sunday the president will soon have legislation "to lead on" in the gun control debate, announcing she will introduce a bill next month in the Senate to place a ban on assault weapons.

"We'll be prepared to go, and I hope the nation will really help," Feinstein said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

The senator said she'll introduce the bill when Congress reconvenes in January and the same legislation will also be proposed in the House of Representatives.

"We're crafting this one. It's being done with care. It'll be ready on the first day," she said, adding that she'll soon announce the House authors.

"It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation, and the possession. Not retroactively, but prospectively. It will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets," she said. "There will be a bill."

Gun rights legislation has gained renewed attention since Friday's deadly elementary school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 20 students and six adults dead.

Many lawmakers and politicians have called for stricter gun control laws at the federal level, including a revisit to the 1994 former assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 but has yet to be reinstated.

Feinstein, who helped champion the 1994 legislation, said she and her staff have looked at the initial bill and tried to "perfect it."

"We believe we have (perfected it). We exempt over 900 specific weapons that will not fall under the bill, but the purpose of this bill is to get … 'weapons of war' off the street of our cities," she said.

The senator added she believes President Barack Obama will support the legislation. As a presidential candidate in 2008, Obama said he would support such a ban, but he has been criticized for failing to work toward tighter gun control laws since taking office.

After Friday's shooting, however, the president signaled a change in policy could soon be in place.

"We're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics," Obama said in his weekly address Saturday, echoing remarks he made Friday after the tragedy.

Feinstein on Sunday praised the assault weapons ban of 1994 for surviving its entire 10-year term and predicted a successful future for her upcoming bill.

"I believe this will be sustained as well," she added. "You know, all of the things that society regulates, but we can't touch guns? That's wrong."

I would find some concern over this, but we have been reassured over and over again, even by those on this board...obama is NOT after our GUNS...

 

[JB Books]

Im still not sure that this isnt just a lot of political puffery. i know there are politicians that hate gun rights (in both parties), but there is always posturing after a tragedy.

If this passes, I will offer a sincere public apology for all the ridicule I have leveled in the past.

 

[farmerbyron]

Im still not sure that this isnt just a lot of political puffery. i know there are politicians that hate gun rights (in both parties), but there is always posturing after a tragedy.

If this passes, I will offer a sincere public apology for all the ridicule I have leveled in the past.

I really hope that you can continue to ridicule us. If you have to eat your words, we have all lost.

 

[uncle money bags]

I; for one, am encouraged that people with very different political views but solidarity in belief of our second amendment rights can come together to defend those rights. This forum is a blessing.

 

[firewire]

Good article.

After the Ma’alot massacre in 1974, Israel instituted a policy in which volunteer school personnel, parents, and grandparents received special training from the civil guard, and were seeded throughout the schools armed with discreetly concealed 9mm semiautomatic pistols. Since that time, there has been no successful mass murder at an Israeli school, and every attempt at such has been quickly shortstopped by the good guys’ gunfire, with minimal casualties among the innocent. Similar programs are in place in Peru and the Phillippines, with similarly successful results.

http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2012/12/15/against-monsters/

 

[Stan Upchurch]

JB, As an Christian minister I understand your feelings. When times like this happen we all hope for the persons that do this to be placed in a hell. We can wish it and that is not wrong, but, punmishment is not for us to decide. Instead, we are to focus on those who have been hurt and find ways to help and support them. But even I wish sometimes that it would get extremely warm for people who do this.

 

[JB Books]

Good article.

http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2012/12/15/against-monsters/

We need something like this in Oklahoma. If we could get such a bill proposed here on the state level, I'd bust butt raising money to help with training and equipping these folks. Heck, most of them would probably have their own gear..