Don't touch his junk TSA

[Jefpainthorse]

next time I fly... speedo and flip flops.

really getting tired of this nonsense. The last few events were on air cargo ... ink carts and such. We have dogs.. we have x rays, we have alternate searches if you raise a red flag... and folks still build bombs in their drawers.
Security is needed.... so is good sense

 

[poopgiggle]

Ooooooh boy I'm flying to my parents' house soon.

I will do my best to be...excited while getting patted down. Failing that, I'll just start moaning uncomfortably loud.

 

[tacmedic]

STUPIDITY REIGNS AND POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GROWS! I think we are ****ING stupid to put up with this ****!!!

We can't do anything about the group of men praying and asking for seat belt extensions prior to take off because of their civil rights but we'll pat down the crying 7 year old girl. That's genius, I feel safer already.

PROFILING!!! It works. Imagine actually looking for the terrorists.

 

[TroyF]

STUPIDITY REIGNS AND POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GROWS! I think we are ****ING stupid to put up with this ****!!!

We can't do anything about the group of men praying and asking for seat belt extensions prior to take off because of their civil rights but we'll pat down the crying 7 year old girl. That's genius, I feel safer already.

PROFILING!!! It works. Imagine actually looking for the terrorists.

Scratch where it itches......

 

[Glocktogo]

There is so much FUD in this thread it's embarassing.

 

[poopgiggle]

PROFILING!!! It works. Imagine actually looking for the terrorists.

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/01/adopting_the_is.html

Behavioral profiling actually works pretty well for the Israelis. The only problem is that it wouldn't really scale to a US-sized problem. Getting a job in airport security in Israel is actually a really competitive process, and their personnel are well-trained and well-paid. We don't have a pool of qualified applicants big enough to fill all the positions, and even if we did I don't think we could afford to train them and pay them enough to get them to stay on the job.

 

[tacmedic]

Behavioral profiling

THIS!

 

[Glocktogo]

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/01/adopting_the_is.html

Behavioral profiling actually works pretty well for the Israelis. The only problem is that it wouldn't really scale to a US-sized problem. Getting a job in airport security in Israel is actually a really competitive process, and their personnel are well-trained and well-paid. We don't have a pool of qualified applicants big enough to fill all the positions, and even if we did I don't think we could afford to train them and pay them enough to get them to stay on the job.

Behavioral profiling is an important part of TSA training, just not to the level that the Israelis do it. Security in the U.S. is a punch line for cartoon strips and news editorials. In Europe and Israel, it's an honored profession that commands well trained, qualified and paid applicants.

If you believe that airport security is a joke and the applicants are underqualified and underpaid, you'd probably never fly again if you knew the pay and training most airline employees get!

 

[prophet]

Last time i flew (end of june) I took some metal wind chimes because i chose a flight with a couple of hr layover in SLC and called my aunt and uncle to meet me for dinner and i wanted to give them a couple of things i didnt want to mail. In okc i didnt have to do anything, i told them i had some wind chimes in my backpack then 4 tsa agents asked to see them and asked for a business card, 3 of them called the next week and bought a wind chime. In SLC when i went back through security i had to take my shoes off, belt off, take laptop out of the case and then they made me turn it on. The first time that has ever happened to me, it was kind of inconvenient (and aggravating) because i was cutting it close but still made my flight.

 

[poopgiggle]

Behavioral profiling is an important part of TSA training, just not to the level that the Israelis do it.

How long do they spend on it, and how intense is it? I really have no idea; it seems that the Israelis do an intensive crash course in interrogation.

Security in the U.S. is a punch line for cartoon strips and news editorials. In Europe and Israel, it's an honored profession that commands well trained, qualified and paid applicants.

Yeah, to get an Israel-style system working here we'd also need a hell of a PR campaign to remove the stigma of being a TSA employee.