The ruger 9mm and 45s are also not second rate.I have owned Kimbers,Colts,Sigs and Rugers.The rugers and sigs are the only ones that have not jammed or caused a malfunction.I paid a whole lot more for the colts and kimbers than I did the rugers.For the money I think ruger is a good gun.I would say that Llama is to the semi-autos what rossi is to revolvers.