Federal Judge Rules AR-15s Are Not Protected by 2nd Amendment
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US v Miller already determined that firearms used by the military are not under the "dangerous and unusual" clause and are in fact protected by the Second Amendment.
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I always thought all firearms were "dangerous"
The dangerous and unusual arms legislation had to do with upholding the ban on things like rocket launchers, grenades, nuclear weapons, etc. US v Miller determined rifles and such are protected by the Second Amendment.
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This is a very dangerous ruling. By the time it gets through the circuit court of appeals and to the supreme court, the supreme court may very well be packed with anti-civil rights justices appointed by Obama.
Never underestimate the lunacy that a judge can find emanating from the penumbra...
"Justice Holmes used the term penumbra to describe the "gray area where logic and principle falter."
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/penumbras
Never underestimate the lunacy that a judge can find emanating from the penumbra...
"Justice Holmes used the term penumbra to describe the "gray area where logic and principle falter."
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/penumbras
In U.S. vs. Miller the following details are important to note;
The Supreme Court:
1. Never read or heard the defendants’ views, because they were not represented in any form.
2. Heard only one side of the matter, the government’s side.
3. Did not accept most of the government’s arguments.
4. Based its conclusion on a small part of the government’s argument.
5. Declared that a short-barreled shotgun was not a "militia" or "military-type" firearm, at the time the Second Amendment was written (late 1700s).
Sounds to me like the judge is trying to pull a fast one, and use this same rhetoric in regards to the ArmaLite Rifle.
The muzzle loader existed when the 2nd Amendment was created, but due to weapon advancement over the passing years has been replaced by the AR platform as standard equipment for the unified governments’ military force, and also has a civilian line of the product available for all to purchase. This allows all of us to continue the tradition of supplying one’s own firearm, so we may serve if & when called upon as listed in the excerpts below.
Oklahoma Constitution - excerpt
Section II-26: Bearing arms - Carrying weapons.
The right of a citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power, when thereunto legally summoned, shall never be prohibited; but nothing herein contained shall prevent the Legislature from regulating the carrying of weapons.
Oklahoma Code Title 44 -excerpt
Militia
§4441. Composition of Militia Classes.
The Militia of the State of Oklahoma shall consist of all able bodied citizens of the United States and all other able bodied persons who shall be or shall have declared their intentions to become citizens of the United States, who shall be more than seventeen (17) years of age and not more than seventy (70) years of age, and said militia shall be divided into three (3) classes: The National Guard, the Oklahoma State Guard, and the Unorganized Militia.
The Supreme Court:
1. Never read or heard the defendants’ views, because they were not represented in any form.
2. Heard only one side of the matter, the government’s side.
3. Did not accept most of the government’s arguments.
4. Based its conclusion on a small part of the government’s argument.
5. Declared that a short-barreled shotgun was not a "militia" or "military-type" firearm, at the time the Second Amendment was written (late 1700s).
Sounds to me like the judge is trying to pull a fast one, and use this same rhetoric in regards to the ArmaLite Rifle.
The muzzle loader existed when the 2nd Amendment was created, but due to weapon advancement over the passing years has been replaced by the AR platform as standard equipment for the unified governments’ military force, and also has a civilian line of the product available for all to purchase. This allows all of us to continue the tradition of supplying one’s own firearm, so we may serve if & when called upon as listed in the excerpts below.
Oklahoma Constitution - excerpt
Section II-26: Bearing arms - Carrying weapons.
The right of a citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power, when thereunto legally summoned, shall never be prohibited; but nothing herein contained shall prevent the Legislature from regulating the carrying of weapons.
Oklahoma Code Title 44 -excerpt
Militia
§4441. Composition of Militia Classes.
The Militia of the State of Oklahoma shall consist of all able bodied citizens of the United States and all other able bodied persons who shall be or shall have declared their intentions to become citizens of the United States, who shall be more than seventeen (17) years of age and not more than seventy (70) years of age, and said militia shall be divided into three (3) classes: The National Guard, the Oklahoma State Guard, and the Unorganized Militia.
Normally, I'd say that this will be reversed on appeal, but these days, who knows.
I just realized that as of my last birthday, I am not in the militia any more.
So why was this even being heard? Did someone challenge this somewhere? And what significance does it have? Will this ruling cause us to not be able to use our AR's for home defense?
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