Gov. Stitt declares Oklahoma special election for recreational marijuana vote

[GnometownHero]

I know some incredibly talented and very smart people who have smoked weed for over 50yrs. They are in better mental shape at ages 70-80 than their peers who didnt smoke weed but now have dementia and Alzheimers and crippled by arthritis.
High CBD topical rub keeps me off the legally precribed oxycodone and other nasty pain drugs I would be strung out on for all my body damage I deal with and the arthritis, neuropathy and hand tremors the pharmaceuticals have zero effect on after years of being on them and risking digestive tract or liver damage or long term opiate addiction.

 

[montesa]

Some people have great luck giving up drinking by using MJ and really turn their lives around and get healthy.

 

[joegrizzy]

I know some incredibly talented and very smart people who have smoked weed for over 50yrs. They are in better mental shape at ages 70-80 than their peers who didnt smoke weed but now have dementia and Alzheimers and crippled by arthritis.
High CBD topical rub keeps me off the legally precribed oxycodone and other nasty pain drugs I would be strung out on for all my body damage I deal with and the arthritis, neuropathy and hand tremors the pharmaceuticals have zero effect on after years of being on them and risking digestive tract or liver damage or long term opiate addiction.

yep.

if "pain management" is becomes the issue, i don't know very many people who would turn down marijuana over "legal" opioids. "but a doctor sells those drugs! there's no way they actually kill more people, ruin more lives, and actually create the very same lazy ******** drug zombies i'm talking about!"

let's just say when you see the hobos doing the fenty droop on the street corner or at your local neighborhood Oncue, they AREN'T doing that because weed.

nah, they got THAT stuff from a doctor. it's "safe".

 

[turkeyrun]

"most people I know that smoke weed believe it or not DON'T really drink or smoke cigarettes."

Dr Fauxci has spoken.


I work with a bunch of stoners. Most under 30, but all the up 65, all smoke cigarettes and drink heavily, not just beer.

My daughter's EX-M-i-L is a lifelong leech on society, whines of being broke, no food, utilities turned, behind on point, BUT always has cigarettes, beer, weed, and meth. Whines to the point, her 4 grown children will not answer her phone calls. She has resorted to calling grandchildren, asking for help.

Lowest form of scum, know to humanity.

25 years ago, Wife and I had taken some things to our daughter. She and husband (still together, at that time) were at her apartment. School had let out and her daughter had gotten home, went inside and came back out, asking her brother, "where is Mom?" He answered, "across the street whoring for the rent. She expects you to help with the electric bill."

Daughter seperated, not long after that.


The weed bought today, from dispensery is definitely stronger and better. Still has nothing to do with those whose priorities are not in raising their family.

 

[JEVapa]

Why do a majority of people that "need" insulin, need insulin? How did they get diabetes? Granted you have a exponentially smaller demographic of type 1..... but again.....how did those people get type II? Did they NEED that food they were stuffing their face with? That's some fun logic you have there that we can explore.

 

[joegrizzy]

"most people I know that smoke weed believe it or not DON'T really drink or smoke cigarettes."

Dr Fauxci has spoken.


I work with a bunch of stoners. Most under 30, but all the up 65, all smoke cigarettes and drink heavily, not just beer.

My daughter's EX-M-i-L is a lifelong leech on society, whines of being broke, no food, utilities turned, behind on point, BUT always has cigarettes, beer, weed, and meth. Whines to the point, her 4 grown children will not answer her phone calls. She has resorted to calling grandchildren, asking for help.

Lowest form of scum, know to humanity.

25 years ago, Wife and I had taken some things to our daughter. She and husband (still together, at that time) were at her apartment. School had let out and her daughter had gotten home, went inside and came back out, asking her brother, "where is Mom?" He answered, "across the street whoring for the rent. She expects you to help with the electric bill."

Daughter seperated, not long after that.


The weed bought today, from dispensery is definitely stronger and better. Still has nothing to do with those whose priorities are not in raising their family.

>cigarettes, beer, weed, meth

look man, i'm not trying to get personal or anything but one of those is DEFINITELY not like the others. i get where you are coming from, but a meth habit is WAY diff. much more like opioids.

 

[crrcboatz]

heeeeere i gooooo

**(please note i reply to comments, not users, and i speak from a general pov. even if i clearly agree with your comment, i may speak to the reader who does NOT agree, which makes some of ya'll old boomers have a really hard time following the shifting pov. i assure you, it's quite simple when you realize there are lots of people who read these posts and never bother even making accounts):


yes it is. a plant the US government spent 20 years locking down literally and *then i'm sure by COMPLETE CHANCE* the US medical industries (you know the same ones making the (not)vaccines?) put synthetic opioids on the market that led to billions in profit and more dead from drug overdoses than any point in US history. like....significantly more dead. and they got caught doing this and paid a bunch of fines, but way less than they made.

you accept this? we did it. we killed over a million muslims and the blood of every single overdose is on the hands of us citizens and the entire medical industry. now tell me how weed is evil.

judgement and reaction time *being effected* is an extremely general statement that does nothing to counter the argument that it's simply not comparable to alcohol. there are countless things that effect judgement and reaction time while driving, and i DARE NOT mention the most heavily correlating factor: age. (second is distraction)

for instance: if you are willing to claim that a 30 year old person who has been smoking pot for 16 years smoked a few hits before his commute to work and HIS REACTION TIMES are impaired to the point of not being allowed to legally travel unmolested, would you like to willingly volunteer YOUR reaction times at age 65 as a comparison?

(i don't know your age, just making a point. i'm taking a 30 year old stoner's reaction times over an old person EVERY DAY, and if we open this can of worms that is "muh judgement and reaction time" you DON'T want to go down that slope, i assure you, because you'll find that YOU are probably worse off than a young stoner.)


to be honest, there's *no real way* to determine is someone is impaired *on anything*. that's why police are allowed to just arrest you and detain you illegally until someone can draw your blood.

but even blood level isn't a direct way to determine "impairedness" on any particular scale. look at say how the NFL treats concussion protocols. they have a series of tests for EACH individual player and they recreate these simple tests after a head injury. they compare the results to the baseline and determine impairedness on a scale of standard deviations away from the baseline.

you *could* argue this is purpose of field sobriety tests, but we know that's not the case given the power dynamic of ya know....someone being allowed to legally detain/murder you.


ah yes, because *everyone i know who is childless* spends $18,000 a year on beer, cigarettes, and weed.

New study finds it costs over $18,000 a year to raise child in the US

A new study found it costs $18,271 per year to raise a child due to inflation.

abc7ny.com

since you threw it out there and i kinda like numbers and trying to make people realize just how completely asinine their arguments are, let's crunch some super basic numbers. and let's be real; ya'll don't do NEARLY enough thought experiments, and you should! especially with your age, it's great for brain plasticity!

assume a 35 year old weed partaker:

* $60 of weed per month (in the old days, you'd get an ounce of the dirtiest mexican red swag (more on this in the next quote!) for this price and that would last a month for a single user easily. not a random figure, i assure you)
smoking
* been smoking since 17

that's 216 months of $60 weed costs. that comes to:

$12,960.00

for **18 years of weed usage**

and the beauty is, with legal weed, it's *much, much cheaper* for a *much, much better product*.
so your $60 a month costs have actually gone way down. if people are doing home grows, just a plant or two, your costs eventually come out to be pennies on the dollar per year.

a SINGLE YEAR of raising a child in the US?

$18,271

most people I know that smoke weed believe it or not DON'T really drink or smoke cigarettes. you might say the weed is enough, as many of them as soon as they don't have weed will say "dang, maybe i need a beer".

PLUS, and this will change, but without the social aspect of alcohol, you're never going to be in a position wherein you realize you spent like WAY more money than you should have on a weekend out.

like honestly, how many of you have gone out for cocktails and ended up with a tab hitting triple digits? for a weekend? easy. that NEVER happens with weed, despite what you may think. there's no situation wherein "oh crap....i bought like two rounds for the whole bar didn't i?"

now THIS is the most absurd take of them all.

you are 100% correct the "weed today is nothing like it was decades ago" and I ASSURE YOU that's definitely all for the better. no offense, but you were smoking disgusting weed grown by *actual mexican cartels* that was grown in federal parks or south of the border and smuggled in gas tanks after being spray with potpourri. we all know it. anyone who ever even *saw* brick weed back in the day knows it.

you don't even know what that stuff WAS man.

you're telling me you wouldn't want a cleaner product that was either grown BY YOU or someone you know or AT THE VERY LEAST someone in your state?

(yes i understand they are likely chinese, but i'm fairly sure those farms are probably growing the cheaper low end stuff. I really don't know, but i would bet the fancy rich people farms are growing some high end stuff that gets a much higher profit margin).

no one wants to smoke red brick weed that smelled like gas, that crumbled into dust like the Ten Commandments in Raiders of the Lost Arc, that had stems the size of tree branches, that was grown and sold by people actually committing actual violent crimes, and the worst part *didn't even get you high* EVER again.

>it's not the same weed we all smoked!

yeah that's why you think stoners are dumb and lazy and ********. you smoked things you had idea where it even came from and assume everyone else is doing the same.

My reaction time at 65 and u being stoned on weed I’d eat your lunch. Would be willing to put coins on that

 

[crrcboatz]

I know some incredibly talented and very smart people who have smoked weed for over 50yrs. They are in better mental shape at ages 70-80 than their peers who didnt smoke weed but now have dementia and Alzheimers and crippled by arthritis.
High CBD topical rub keeps me off the legally precribed oxycodone and other nasty pain drugs I would be strung out on for all my body damage I deal with and the arthritis, neuropathy and hand tremors the pharmaceuticals have zero effect on after years of being on them and risking digestive tract or liver damage or long term opiate addiction.

CBD is not smoking weed to get stoned.

 

[crrcboatz]

"most people I know that smoke weed believe it or not DON'T really drink or smoke cigarettes."

Dr Fauxci has spoken.


I work with a bunch of stoners. Most under 30, but all the up 65, all smoke cigarettes and drink heavily, not just beer.

My daughter's EX-M-i-L is a lifelong leech on society, whines of being broke, no food, utilities turned, behind on point, BUT always has cigarettes, beer, weed, and meth. Whines to the point, her 4 grown children will not answer her phone calls. She has resorted to calling grandchildren, asking for help.

Lowest form of scum, know to humanity.

25 years ago, Wife and I had taken some things to our daughter. She and husband (still together, at that time) were at her apartment. School had let out and her daughter had gotten home, went inside and came back out, asking her brother, "where is Mom?" He answered, "across the street whoring for the rent. She expects you to help with the electric bill."

Daughter seperated, not long after that.


The weed bought today, from dispensery is definitely stronger and better. Still has nothing to do with those whose priorities are not in raising their family.

Yeppers a whole new world

 

[turkeyrun]

Yes, meth is different. Point is, too many are using the system, complain of living wage and not being able to feed kids or pay bills, but are never out of cigarettes, beer, or weed.

I have no tolerance for them. Do it until their brain is mush, I don't care. But don't come whining about being broke.