Tried the holding the pants around the calves last couple nights out and about seems to work pretty good. I forgot about Mas doing that story. Never removing mine again as I got to thinking when it is on the tp/tank/changing table what have you your pointing a loaded weapon at whatevers on the other side of that wall and the walls beyond. Best thing i can tell you now is practice at the house in your own toilet. I was concerned about the weight flopping but even just re-snapping the jeans at my knees helped.
