knife question

[Crosstimbers Okie]

Where did you come up with the blade length???

 

[Stephen Cue]

Where did you come up with the blade length???

I was told by LEO's and others that know what their talking about. I have never personally researched the words on paper.

 

[vvvvvvv]

I was told by LEO's and others that know what their talking about. I have never personally researched the words on paper.

No offense to LEO's, but the majority don't KNOW what's on paper, just what they have been told. The State of Oklahoma has NO limits on blade length.

However, the way I understand it, some cities DO have length restrictions, and the State doesn't (as far as I have found) assert preemption on knives.

By the way, 4 inches is the most common I hear.



By the way, a little history lesson: the reason for the state asserting preemption on firearms was because some towns were complete gun free zones.

 

[Crosstimbers Okie]

An Oklahoma City cop I once knew told me that they all confiscated knives based on whether the blade was longer than the palm of their hand. Real objective. They stole people's property because they were too lazy to read the law.

Oklahoma state law prohibits nothing based on blade length. There are three municipalities that I'm aware of that limit knives by blade length. They are: Muskogee, six inches (13-421 & 13-422) and Norman, four inches (15-504) . In Oklahoma City there's an ordinance against offering for sale or exhibit pocketknives with blades greater than four inches (30-311 & 30-302). Look out Walmart!

 

[Michael Brown]

I was told by LEO's and others that know what their talking about. I have never personally researched the words on paper.

If an LEO told you that there is a blade length limit in state law, he or she needs to re-read title 21.

Knives are prohibited by style and name in title 21, not by blade length.

Michael Brown

 

[Stephen Cue]

If an LEO told you that there is a blade length limit in state law, he or she needs to re-read title 21.

Knives are prohibited by style and name in title 21, not by blade length.

Michael Brown

Thanks Michael, not only will I read it for myself, I will pass on the info to my LEO friends that "informed" me

-Stephen

 

[jaenosjelantru]

I just wanted to say that I've thoroughly enjoyed reading this entire thread and have purchased a Ka-Bar TDI thanks to the very helpful information in here, particularly by Michael Brown. So thanks.

I do have one question related to a comment by MB:

"Thrusting is what you're looking for in a personal protection blade unless you have a huge blade like a bowie or kukri which are illegal to carry."

Is this because a kukri would be considered an "offensive weapon"?

I ask because I'm in the process of buying a British Army Service khukuri from HI. A friend has three different ones and turned me on to them. My research regarding khukuris is what led me to this forum in the first place.

Aside from my lead foot, I'm a very law abiding citizen and never get in a situation where interacting with LEO's would cause concern. I'm not looking to carry my khukuri on my person but I make leather bags and always have my leather briefcase with me, which has plenty of room for a khukuri.

If it's the offensive weapon category that makes it illegal to carry, is there a way to get around that in situations where you may carry the khukuri for utilitarian purposes like lawn work, etc.

I'm not looking for legal advice, just the informed opinions that I've already enjoyed so much of in this forum. Thanks in advance for your responses.

 

[Michael Brown]

I just wanted to say that I've thoroughly enjoyed reading this entire thread and have purchased a Ka-Bar TDI thanks to the very helpful information in here, particularly by Michael Brown. So thanks.

I do have one question related to a comment by MB:

"Thrusting is what you're looking for in a personal protection blade unless you have a huge blade like a bowie or kukri which are illegal to carry."

Is this because a kukri would be considered an "offensive weapon"?

I ask because I'm in the process of buying a British Army Service khukuri from HI. A friend has three different ones and turned me on to them. My research regarding khukuris is what led me to this forum in the first place.

Aside from my lead foot, I'm a very law abiding citizen and never get in a situation where interacting with LEO's would cause concern. I'm not looking to carry my khukuri on my person but I make leather bags and always have my leather briefcase with me, which has plenty of room for a khukuri.

If it's the offensive weapon category that makes it illegal to carry, is there a way to get around that in situations where you may carry the khukuri for utilitarian purposes like lawn work, etc.

I'm not looking for legal advice, just the informed opinions that I've already enjoyed so much of in this forum. Thanks in advance for your responses.

Another member of this forum carried a Kukri in his car as a work tool so I'm confident it can be done if you've got a reasonable explanation and you're not committing any other crimes.

I think if you were committing another crime of violence, then an officer and ADA would likely consider the kukri an offensive weapon.

That said, I'm not a lawyer and can only speak from my base of experience.

Michael Brown

 

[jaenosjelantru]

Well I appreciate your opinion.

Hypothetical:

I have a kukri in my car. A crime happens and I grab my kukri and use it in defense of myself or my loved ones. Does the act of having a kukri and actually going to get it put me in danger of losing the defense aspect?

 

[Big-Tex]

I have a ontario marine raider bowie. I read the bold as that I can still carry my bowie is it's used as camp/utility knife when out hunting/kayaking. Am I correct in my assumtion?

"�21-1272. Unlawful carry.
UNLAWFUL CARRY

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to carry upon or about his or her person, or in a purse or other container belonging to the person, any pistol, revolver, shotgun or rifle whether loaded or unloaded or any dagger, bowie knife, dirk knife, switchblade knife, spring-type knife, sword cane, knife having a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife, blackjack, loaded cane, billy, hand chain, metal knuckles, or any other offensive weapon, whether such weapon be concealed or unconcealed, except this section shall not prohibit:

1. The proper use of guns and knives for hunting, fishing, educational or recreational purposes;2. The carrying or use of weapons in a manner otherwise permitted by statute or authorized by the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act;
3. The carrying, possession and use of any weapon by a peace officer or other person authorized by law to carry a weapon in the performance of official duties and in compliance with the rules of the employing agency; or
4. The carrying and use of firearms and other weapons provided in this subsection when used for the purpose of living history reenactment. For purposes of this paragraph, "living history reenactment" means depiction of historical characters, scenes, historical life or events for entertainment, education, or historical documentation through the wearing or use of period, historical, antique or vintage clothing, accessories, firearms, weapons, and other implements of the historical period.?