nullification and the Supremacy Clause

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WessonOil

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I really wish everyone would just get past this whole thing with Obamacare not being constitutional.

Can't we just agree that most Americans want it, and that's it's good for us? lol

I wonder how many people who used to think that Hussein Obama was concerned about our welfare now realize that he also endorsed the IRS singling out people, and allowing the NSA to monitor all of us.

Yep, Obama will now have even easier access to our medical records, rather than having the NSA have to intercept them via the internet.
 

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False hope, perhaps, but nobody who is intellectually honest can say that the current American government can last given the current trend.

Of course, the current American government can last - the question is always "how long" and since nothing is ever static you have to do constant change analysis. Anyone who is "intellectually honest" should be able to recognize, and admit, that there are always numerous possible outcomes. It also raises the question of what you mean by "last" - do you mean fall out of favor and be rejected by voters, or another great depression-like event, or a total systemic collapse, etc.

The kind of language you are using reminds me of an interview with (a very young) Tom Hayden - former husband of Jane Fonda, former CA State representative, and former member of the 1960's era radical group Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). In the course of that interview, while being asked about the possibilities of reform that would make the "system" more palatable to the SDS, Tom Hayden remarked with incredulity (I paraphrase) surely the interviewer couldn't seriously believe that there wouldn't be a revolution in America within the next few years.

Well, there wasn't a revolution but there was a great deal of change - some good and some not so good. I suspect that is a lot more likely to be the outcome of our current challenges than any sudden desperate collapse.
 

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The "Commerce Clause" removed any obstacle to the "Supremacy Clause".

I somewhat agree but I think the liberal judicial rulings on the Commerce Clause have instead removed obstacles to the Necessary and Proper Clause. (Article I, Section 8, clause 18)

The Congress shall have Power - To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
 

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