Targets of American gun owners to DHS

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http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/dhs-supplier-sells-targets-of-american-gun-owners/

Law Enforcement Targets, Inc., a 21 year designer and full service provider of training targets for thousands of law enforcement agencies throughout the country, including the Department of Homeland Security and the Justice Department, is now providing a line of “No More Hesitation” targets. What is so unusual about these targets? They are of a “pregnant woman threat,” “older man with shotgun,” “older man in home with shotgun,” “older woman with gun,” “young school aged girl,” “young mother on playground,” and “little boy with real gun.”
According to the the website these targets are “”designed to give officers the experience of dealing with deadly force shooting scenarios with subjects that are not the norm during training.” The targets are, “meant to help the transition for officers who are faced with these highly unusual targets for the first time.”
While I do recall live ranges using people that are non threatening in order to facilitate a reaction from trainees in which they might encounter innocent people while trying to locate criminals, this is a bit unsettling. Of course, yes there could be a mistake and as we are aware many people today are carrying concealed and you want to be ready to deal with law abiding citizens you might encounter that carry. I can see preparation for coming into a situation where there is a mass shooting and yet there might be civilians who are armed trying to stop the threat and police arrive on the scene. However, a little boy? or a young school aged girl? Additionally why label this line “No More Hesitation”? Is it to encourage shooting the person on the target? Furthermore, who is demanding these kinds of targets?


This doesn’t seem to be an unreasonable question to ask. Especially with DHS purchasing billions of rounds of ammunition and placing solicitations for 7,000 fully automatic rifles.
When you begin to consider the leaked US Army Military Police training manual, which outlines how military assets are to be used to quell riots domestically, confiscate firearms and even kill Americans on U.S. soil, along with characterizing Americans who are “suspicious of centralized federal authority,” and “reverent of individual liberty” as “extreme right-wing” terrorists by DHS-funded studies, it makes for a pretty surreal and frightening progression of thought.
There has not been confirmation that any government agency has purchased these yet. Calls to LETargets have not been returned.
 

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Yea, that is unsettling. Granted as a LEO you never know who is a threat when responding. But training to shoot at these types of targets I would think could alter how a officer would normally handle the situation. Could it make them a little quicker to pull the trigger in these situations instead of other means of diffusing the situation? Seems like it would be geared more towards them worrying about mass civil unrest & how to try to get officers to cope with it easier.
 

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Yea, that is unsettling. Granted as a LEO you never know who is a threat when responding. But training to shoot at these types of targets I would think could alter how a officer would normally handle the situation. Could it make them a little quicker to pull the trigger in these situations instead of other means of diffusing the situation? Seems like it would be geared more towards them worrying about mass civil unrest & how to try to get officers to cope with it easier.

Call me crazy but there is no amount of training to cope with shooting a child or pregnant woman. That is something that would never sit right even if it were justified.
 

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Seems to me they would be more useful in training for what one might encounter when going door to door confiscating firearms.
 

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Hi all, just thought I would give my 2 cents worth. Targets of pregnant women and children. I just hope any person in any kind of law enforcement doesn't have a family. If leos go for a person's family it is to be expected that there will be someone that will go for their family.
Things like this can get ugly very quickly.
 

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What do all of these have in common? The "targets" appear to be in or at their own homes. What scenario would they find themselves in that would require this kind of training? I mean, if you are inside a baby's nursery and a mother is pointing a gun at you....should you really be there?! It's her home! Even in a worst case scenario, shouldn't they be teaching them to talk and not shoot kids/pregnant women?
 
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