Thank you, SCOTUS!

[rawhide]

From what I read earlier today the MA SC ruling was based on the position that the 2nd Amendment only protects arms that existed at the time of the 2nd's writing. If that is true then this ruling could have positive potential for other cases in states like MA.

 

[Norinoo]

Thank god your masters in black robes are reluctantly returning rights the "state" stole. Where would you people be without this benevolent "state" looking out for your welfare and well being. Most of you are f*cked up tools loving this deity you call government.

1. You shall have no other gods before Me. (government)
2. You shall not make idols. (government)

 

[rbstern]

Thank god your masters in black robes are reluctantly returning rights the "state" stole. Where would you people be without this benevolent "state" looking out for your welfare and well being. Most of you are f*cked up tools loving this deity you call government.

Anarchy much?

If groups of people are going to live together under the umbrella of shared civic values, there needs to be an expression of those values, and a system for resolving inevitable conflicts. The expression, in the case of the United States, is the Constitution, and the system for resolving conflicts is the government our Constitution defines, including the judicial branch.

Perfect? Hell no. Admitted to be not, by the very people who created it. Better than those which have come before it? Probably. Corruptible? You bet. All day, every day.

All we can do is try to hold everyone accountable. SCOTUS did that with this decision. That doesn't make them our master; in this case, they acted as a steward for our rights, as written in the Bill of Rights. Is it sad that I should celebrate such an unusual event? Yeah. But it still beats Cuba, Somalia, China, Colombia, et. al., by a long shot.

 

[Mos Eisley]

That's the title from the Federalist, mot mine. I just thank God and baby Jesus I wasn't raised in the state of Massachusetts.

The U.S. Supreme Court vacated a ruling that criminalized stun guns by excluding them from Second Amendment protections.

In 2011, a Massachusetts woman, Jaime Caetano, was arrested for carrying a stun gun in her purse to protect herself from her abusive ex-boyfriend. A judge at the time ruled that Caetano’s decision to carry a stun gun was illegal because the Second Amendment right to bear arms only applies to the types of weapons commonly used at the time the amendment was ratified.

Last year, the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts upheld Caetano’s criminal conviction, saying that a stun gun “is not the type of weapon that is eligible for Second Amendment protection.”

On Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court vacated the lower court’s ruling andordered the Massachusetts court to rehear the case. No members of the Court dissented from the opinion ordering the state court to rehear the case. In a separate opinion, Justice Samuel Alito and Justice Clarence Thomas slammed the Massachusetts court for being “more concerned about disarming the people than about keeping them safe.”

http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/22/the-supreme-court-just-smacked-down-a-terrible-anti-gun-ruling/

 

[Norinoo]

Anrchy means no rulers. Does not mean no rules.

The modern state was created as a Bourgeois design to destroy traditions of moral behavior. Moral behavior does not need the benevolent "State" to resolve those conflicts that arise between folk. For thousands of years conflicts were resolved without the "State". The fact that the "state" is to be the judge is proof enough that folk worship the "State". The "State" is the god. And God is regulated to myth.

Democracy and republicanism are nothing but forms of communism, socialism and liberalism. All bring different groups under the same umbrella of the "State" and seek to destroy individual groups and their traditions. A classic example is the destruction of the American Indian tribes and herding of those not genocided onto "State" reeducation camp reservations to make them adjust to the "State's" dictates. It's ongoing even today in the current societies around the world. The sole exception is the apartheid nation of Israel.

Folk fail to realize that rights are natural and do not come from man. Folk chose corrupted men to be their masters under the guise of the voting process who then stole and infringed on those rights in the past. And when those same masters return the stolen rights, they are praised instead of held accountable for the theft they invoked.

The "State" does not exist. It is an imaginary creation of men who no longer want to be living under the natural rules instituted by the Creator. The same Creator spoken of in the Declaration of Independence. The Constitution removed God from the equation and made the "State" the god. The Constitution shredded the intent of the Declaration of Independence and the Articles of Confederation. But most folks worship the Constitution. Idiots.

 

[rbstern]

I think that most of us who are fans of the Constitution realize rights are natural. We also realize that rights are lost not just because of an overzealous state, but also claims of moral authority based on scripture and mysticism. Perversion of liberty comes in many disguises.

IMHO, the best we can do is institute government designed to secure liberty. In the thousands of years of recorded history, we have yet to see perfection. No civic or religious expression of social structure has resulted in a perfectly functioning society. Each has eventually torn itself apart. The founding of the United States was very different than most of the experiments before it: It acknowledged natural rights, emphasized the importance of individual liberty, and that power should remain with the people rather than political rulers.

Of course, we've greatly strayed from that concept. We'll tear ourselves apart, too. All of this will have to be reinvented, hopefully in a more perfect form.

In the meantime, I will continue to celebrate when our Constitutional process does something to reaffirm the intent of the founders, as is the case here.

 

[Glocktogo]

Thank god your masters in black robes are reluctantly returning rights the "state" stole. Where would you people be without this benevolent "state" looking out for your welfare and well being. Most of you are f*cked up tools loving this deity you call government.

1. You shall have no other gods before Me. (government)
2. You shall not make idols. (government)

Sovereign citizen much?

 

[RugersGR8]

 

[LightningCrash]

I look forward to reading the ruling and expert commentary on this.
I would have never guessed this outcome!

 

[dennishoddy]

Anrchy means no rulers. Does not mean no rules.

The modern state was created as a Bourgeois design to destroy traditions of moral behavior. Moral behavior does not need the benevolent "State" to resolve those conflicts that arise between folk. For thousands of years conflicts were resolved without the "State".

So, what are you advocating here? Draw guns at high noon in front of the saloon?