Three Men Arrested After Buying Gun At Gun Show In OKC

[okcwizzard]

Why did the police notice these guys at a gun show, what made them stand out? Something had to trigger further investigation.
Now dont take this wrong, I am glad the guys got caught, they were breaking the law, but what triggered the suspicion?

Are the police at gun shows running plates on cars to see who shows up?

Per the report on NewsOK.com
http://newsok.com/three-men-two-of-...ing-gun-at-oklahoma-city-show/article/3742508

"A tattoo on one man's face alerted a police officer at an Oklahoma City gun show to check his criminal background."

snip/A police officer working overtime at a gun show at State Fair Park saw three men put money together to buy a gun. One man had a distinctive tattoo of “XV” under his right eye, and the officer checked the tattoo in a database, according to the report.

The database showed David Jackson had this tattoo and that he had two deferred felony convictions and a pending felony case in Oklahoma County, according to the report./snip

 

[uncle money bags]

Yep. It would cost more money, delays would increase, and nothing would change. Laws don't limit access of criminals to anything. If a guy wants to cover his ass he will sell to someone he knows. You can be put to death for murder. Still doesn't stop it.

That is all true. Do I get a point for the assist?

 

[thegomezclan]

Sounds to me that the police already knew that's the one guy was a felon, why else would they be waiting for him when he left the show? The real problem is why was he let out of jail, maybe he was buying a gun for protecting his family. Why do anything about the so called loophole, I buy from private individuals because I don't like to wait because I get delayed all the time.

 

[Billybob]

A solution doesn't have to be 100% effective to be pretty damn effective. If we are truly interested in being responsible gun owners, shouldn't we support laws that prevent a large number of guns from getting in the wrong hands? I'm thinking that I'd rather have this discussion than to be losing the ability to own Saigas, Sub2000s, or ARs... and if you accept SDA cards as proof that you're good to go, then there's a few benefits to that. Most of us will never have to do a NICS check again, which makes our transactions faster for the FFLs, and removes the competitive advantage that private sellers enjoy over FFLs at gun shows... it's also an incentive for more lawful gun owners to apply for and obtain their SDA card, which not only makes our numbers higher for lobbying purposes, but the State gets more revenue from license fees. I see several benefits here, and minimal drawbacks, the more I think about this... but $50 is stupid high for a transfer, IMO.

I'm not advocating banning private sales. Just require NICS on gun show private sales. Also if WE initiated this idea, could it not remove the wind out of the sails of the antis? Really just exploring this idea... any good reason not to do this?

What do the parts of your post I underlined have to do with preventing gun crime?

How many guns have gotten into the wrong hands at gun shows?
What does background checks at gun shows have to do with an assault rifle ban?
If we can't stop false I.D.'s and SS cards how can we stop false SDA cards?
Should the SDA be turned into a FOID?
If NICS are done only for private sales at gun shows what about Armslist etc.?
Why should law abiding people be burdened and guns controlled when criminals are not?
Will the antis not contend that all private sales be checked to be truly effective?
Do NICS checks stop straw buys or would that require registration?
Did the background check system in Conn. stop Sandy Hook?
Did closing the gun show loophole in Colorado stop the Aurora shooting?
What was the result of checking private sales and registration on SKS owners in California?

Colorado closes gun-show 'loophole'

http://www.wnd.com/2001/04/8681/

 

[tntrex]

Good job on the policemans part.

 

[Keelty]

Its not about stopping the mass shootings or any other kind of gun violence. Its about the very slow disarmament of people. One law there, another one here...

 

[Billybob]

Being worried about selling to a buyer is not the point. Many on this board are careful to only sell to people they are pretty sure about. However, it is evident that some sellers at gun shows will sell to anyone with $$$. I'd like to not see articles like this about felons successfully buying at a show. It makes all of us look bad.

Why is it that a criminal who is most likely not part of the "gun community" buying a gun at a show makes all gun owners look bad but criminals in politics/Government/business who are part of that community do not make all of them look bad?
And why do the Dr.'s who are basically drug dealers not make all Dr.'s look bad?
Why do drunk drivers not make all drinkers look bad?
Again it's not about crime it's about demonizing guns.

 

[Billybob]

Does anyone else find it ironic that a felony excludes someone from gun ownership but not running/serving in Congress?

S.C. Democrat with criminal past runs for Congress

Federal court records show Doyle, 37, was convicted in 2003 on six felony counts related to Medicare fraud and making false statements, resulting in a 30-month prison sentence.

Dick Harpootlian, chairman of the state Democratic Party, said party officials would need to evaluate Doyle’s chances of success and campaign strategy before opting to devote resources toward campaigning for him.

“He’s legally qualified, A. and B, we’re sending him to Washington, where fraud is a way of life. So I certainly don’t think it’s a disqualifier,” Harpootlian said of Doyle’s conviction. “We’d have to see what kind of effort he’s making.”

South Carolina law prohibits convicted felons from serving in state office. But there is no law barring felons from seeking federal office...

Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2012/06/16/2318275/sc-democrat-with-criminal-past.html#storylink=cpy

 

[Mos Eisley]

Its not about stopping the mass shootings or any other kind of gun violence. Its about the very slow disarmament of people. One law there, another one here...

^^this

 

[saddlebum]

Why did the police notice these guys at a gun show, what made them stand out? Something had to trigger further investigation.
Now dont take this wrong, I am glad the guys got caught, they were breaking the law, but what triggered the suspicion?

Are the police at gun shows running plates on cars to see who shows up?

they were recognized as known gang members. the officer remembered the tattoo as someone he had dealt with and looked him up to confirm he was a felon.

I know retired officers that will recognize people they arrested 30 years ago and can tell you what kinda of car the guy was driving and the color shirt he was wearing.when you put turds in jail for aliving it pays to have a good memory