Tulsa road construction rant thread

[Clay]

I heard it was because of Obamas stimulus program.
In order to get the monies, ODOT had to let the contracts within a certain window. There were lots of interstate projects for Tulsa as well as I-40 east, ready to let waiting on funds so when Obama funded us, they all got let to contract at once. Consequently they are being constructed all at once. Thia is not intentional but a pure example of the cluster*luck that occurs when the Feds drive the bus.
That's just what I heard ...I may be wrong.

 

[Clay]

I thoroughly despise the Oklahoma Department of Transportation. Not the workers that have to put their lifes on the line out there in traffic but the ones who plan and schedule which jobs. No person in their right mind would have construction on every major road going through Tulsa. I have to drive from south Broken Arrow to Downtown and back everyday of the week and its really getting annoying. No matter which way you go theres gridlock.

You have no idea what your talking about at all.

The plain fact is the users ***** when the roads need repair and they ***** when they are being fixed.
Don't like it, move to LA for a while then come back and appreciate OKs transportation system more.

 

[buckeye]

Baloney. The planners can't simply throw traveling logistics out the window when deciding which stretches of road to repair and when. He's right that there's now no good way to get through midtown - every freeway is now seriously compromised and even surface streets are going under the knife. From a recent TrafFax, right from the state: the BA will be down to one lane, both directions, around the Pittsburg bridge until further notice. Find another route. The TrafFaxes are full of "at least xxx months" and "until further notice". How long has the IDL been jacked up? What was that big ribbon cutting where they said it was "DONE"?

No, I am unconvinced that our current situation is the result of good planning. It's hard work for everybody and the crews appear to be doing a conscientious job, but there was a serious breakdown in planning somewhere high on the ladder.

A few people will ***** regardless of the situation. But then again, sometimes some bitching is warranted and we're there right now. If you don't see a problem, you haven't tried to drive across town and god forbid rush hour.

 

[redmax51]

You have no idea what your talking about at all.

The plain fact is the users ***** when the roads need repair and they ***** when they are being fixed.
Don't like it, move to LA for a while then come back and appreciate OKs transportation system more.

Now that's just plain silly.LA has as many people living within its borders as the entire state of Ok.They don't have road decay like we do just a whole bunch more people.Oklahoma doesn't know how to build roads.Drive any direction and you can tell when you leave Ok by the condition of the roads.

 

[Clay]

Baloney. The planners can't simply throw traveling logistics out the window when deciding which stretches of road to repair and when. He's right that there's now no good way to get through midtown - every freeway is now seriously compromised and even surface streets are going under the knife. From a recent TrafFax, right from the state: the BA will be down to one lane, both directions, around the Pittsburg bridge until further notice. Find another route. The TrafFaxes are full of "at least xxx months" and "until further notice". How long has the IDL been jacked up? What was that big ribbon cutting where they said it was "DONE"?

No, I am unconvinced that our current situation is the result of good planning. It's hard work for everybody and the crews appear to be doing a conscientious job, but there was a serious breakdown in planning somewhere high on the ladder.

A few people will ***** regardless of the situation. But then again, sometimes some bitching is warranted and we're there right now. If you don't see a problem, you haven't tried to drive across town and god forbid rush hour.

Lmmfao... yeah I don't know.

 

[murphy j]

I live in mid-town(15th & Lewis area). I work just off 51st & Memorial. What used to be a 10 minute drive to work in the morning and roughly the same to get home in the afternoon, has now turned into a minimum of a 20-30 minute drive at non-peak times. I agree that this could have been better planned. I'm not faulting the workers themselves, just the planners. The 6 P's were obviously not applied to the road construction situation in Tulsa. Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

 

[Clay]

Now that's just plain silly.LA has as many people living within its borders as the entire state of Ok.They don't have road decay like we do just a whole bunch more people.Oklahoma doesn't know how to build roads.Drive any direction and you can tell when you leave Ok by the condition of the roads.

Hmm? So because it take 2a hours to go 40 mileson some LA freeways, they know design better than we do. I see. The first aspect of design is to forecast the traffic count, provide the right number of lanes and geometric configuration.
CA doesn't have that down.
Take a drive to austin if you want to see how it should be done.
OKs issues began years ago when the politicians started misusing state highway funds.

 

[reddog1]

The idiot that plans this stuff ought to be sweeping gravel roads.

 

[Clay]

I live in mid-town(15th & Lewis area). I work just off 51st & Memorial. What used to be a 10 minute drive to work in the morning and roughly the same to get home in the afternoon, has now turned into a minimum of a 20-30 minute drive at non-peak times. I agree that this could have been better planned. I'm not faulting the workers themselves, just the planners. The 6 P's were obviously not applied to the road construction situation in Tulsa. Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

It was the federal stimulus program and nothing more, I know this as fact.

 

[redmax51]

Hmm? So because it take 2a hours to go 40 mileson some LA freeways, they know design better than we do. I see. The first aspect of design is to forecast the traffic count, provide the right number of lanes and geometric configuration.
CA doesn't have that down.
Take a drive to austin if you want to see how it should be done.
OKs issues began years ago when the politicians started misusing state highway funds.

Hmmm, I must have misread the op, I thought we were talking about congestion caused by road repair, not congestion caused by road planning in a city with four million people. The entire state of Texas is an example how it "should be done". I just said you could travel any direction and see better roads as soon as you left OK.