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Ok. As some of you may or may not know, I have a problem keeping guns. Yes, it's true. Over the past 20 years (+/-) I'll bet I've bought, sold and traded more ordnance than everybody on this forum combined.

My most recent "desire" is for a 1911. Try not to babble, GMThunder. ;)

With the "desire" for a 1911, the Smith & Wesson Commander sized "Gunsite" edition is the one that has caught my eye the most. IMO, it has everything you need and nothing that you don't. I really don't want a FLGR nor do I need an ambi safety. I have a deal cooking with a member now on one, but logistics may or may not keep us from making a trade. :grumble:

Anyway...that really has no bearing on the topic of this thread. Well...yeah, I guess maybe it does. :scratch:

Today I had a few minutes between transports, so I stopped in my local toy store to see what was new. For 5 bills, he had two .45s that I kinda admired. They were both Rock Island Armory 1911s: One was the standard 5 incher and the other was the smaller Officer's size. They both had "custom" features such as a slotted/Commander style hammer, high sweep beavertail grip safety, FLG rods and a flat, checkered MSH. They both had slotted triggers, but they weren't the longer trigger that you see on most pistols. :ugh2:

The 5 incher also wore an ambi thumb safety and Novak style sights and the Officer's model had G.I. type sights and a bushingless, bull barrel. Both are new in the box and were blued with wooden stocks.

Now then. Does Colt, Kimber, Smith & Wesson and Springfield Armory REALLY make a better .45 than the RIA? Are they REALLY worth damn near twice as much as the $500 price tag on the RIA models? Or are you basically buying the name when you purchase a Kimber, Colt or Smith & Wesson? Also...is the 3.5" Officer's model more prone to malfs because of it's shorter stroke? I've always heard that in a 1911 platform, you really don't wanna go any shorter than a Commander size for this very reason.

FWIW, the guy also had a Smith & Wesson 5 incher too. The only "big" difference I could tell was the sights had the 3 dot system and the trigger might have been a half a pound lighter. Other than that (and the stainless finish) I couldn't tell a whole lotta difference betwixt the two.

Of course...I'm not the 1911 aficionado that most here are, so I might have missed something. :rolleyes2

Your thoughts and comments please. :chat:
 

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I have a RIA that I won't shoot anything but light handloads through. I mean cast lead semi-wad cutters that barely cycle the action.

The slide is soft enough that the slide stop is peening the slide stop notch and the locking lugs are starting to round a little. The trigger is garbage and it feels like there is sand in the action. I would take the time to fix all of these things, but it is not worth it.

It belonged to my dad's good friend before he passed or I wouldn't keep it.


For a few bucks more buy something not made in the third world.




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I have a RIA that I won't shoot anything but light handloads through. I mean cast lead semi-wad cutters that barely cycle the action.

The slide is soft enough that the slide stop is peening the slide stop notch and the locking lugs are starting to round a little. The trigger is garbage and it feels like there is sand in the action. I would take the time to fix all of these things, but it is not worth it.

It belonged to my dad's good friend before he passed or I wouldn't keep it.


For a few bucks more buy something not made in the third world.




Rob

Thanks Rob. I guess you really do get what you pay for, huh? ;)

Short version (a concept you seem to struggle with :)) YES

Yeah, I know...I know. :rolleyes2
 

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I have a Citadel, which is basically a RIA dressed up a bit, and I am considering getting rid of the Colt government model. I really like shooting the officer model and it shoots way better than the Colt. The only reason I still have the Colt is, I have a policy about buying and not ever selling guns, lol. I have to get over that!
 
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I have a Citadel, which is basically a RIA dressed up a bit, and I am considering getting rid of the Colt government model. I really like shooting the officer model and it shoots way better than the Colt. The only reason I still have the Colt is, I have a policy about buying and not ever selling guns, lol. I have to get over that!

NO! YOU DON'T HAFTA GET OVER THAT! :angry3:

I wish I could hang onto guns. It's a sickness, I tell you...a real sickness. :cry3:
 
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If it ain't a Colt, it's just a copy. :thumb:

*sigh* :rolleyes2

I do own one little pony...a Colt cobra snubbie from 1974. Not a bad revolver but the last time I toted it, I noticed a slight problem when dry firing. About every 15-20 trigger pulls, it acts like it doesn't wanna pull through.

I haven't carried it since and I'm afraid it's gonna need to go to the doctor. As scarce as Colt smitties are, that'll cost me an arm and a leg! :yikes2:
 
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For about a bill more than the RIA I would look at the STI Spartan.
Olyeller has sold several in the past and could tell you much more about them than I could.
I have an STI Ranger its an officers model and I haven't had any issues with it.
Let me know and you can shoot it anytime if you want.
 

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