K98k's and politics

[MoBoost]

I have an Israeli K98k chambered in 7.62. On one side it has the Nazi Eagle waffenstamps, and on the other it has a very crude Star of David. The receiver was manufactured in Berlin in 1938, so I know it had to see some action in Poland against the Poles, French and Brits. It has possibly shot at Americans, French, British, Polish, Soviets, Egyptians, Syrians, Iraqis, Arabs and at some point even Nazis.

You know why I freakin' LOVE this rifle? 'cause it is irrevocable proof that a gun is a gun. A tool. Nothing else. No imbued spirit of evil or malice inside it. Used by Victimizer for brutality and eventually by their victims for defense of their homeland. Full 180, politically. The Jews had no problem in the Warsaw Ghetto using Mausers against their oppressors. The Jews had no problem using Mausers to defend their homes with them.

So, what's the problem? It's a gun. It's history. Mine has seen at least two wars, for sure. The souls of it's slain do not reside in it's steel and wood. No evil spirits come out of it when I fire. I don't feel the overwhelming desire to murder kittens by the bag full when I fondle it. It's an inanimate object with markings that prove its history and I enjoy owning it.

Great post. Thanks.

 

[flatwins]

Great post. Thanks.

I agree. Well stated.

 

[bootsbaker]

Spilling the beans....

I hate Nazis: for philosophical, ideological, moral and very personal reasons.

K98 was made in Germany 1935-1945. Germany was under Hitler's Nazi totalitarian control 1931-1945. K98 was a Nazi weapon - it wasn't made before or after.

If you are a Nazi - fine, this is a free country you can say and believe whatever you want; of course if you decide to act on you Nazi believes - it's a whole different story.

If you are just toying with Nazi ideas - that's when I will say my piece. Yeah, it's moral crusade - I wouldn't be on it if it wasn't needed, would I?

you sound like a lunatic. seriously, do you watch tv shows that have any violence? at all? if you do then you must have violent tendancies and secretly want to kill people. Honestly your opinions make that much sense. Its like your blaming the guns for the crimes commited with them why don't you just join the uber left and have all guns outlawed and removed from everyone since people commit crimes with them.

 

[caojyn]

you sound like a lunatic. seriously, do you watch tv shows that have any violence? at all? if you do then you must have violent tendancies and secretly want to kill people. Honestly your opinions make that much sense. Its like your blaming the guns for the crimes commited with them why don't you just join the uber left and have all guns outlawed and removed from everyone since people commit crimes with them.

HAHA! ^this

 

[MoBoost]

do you watch tv shows that have any violence? at all?

Yes I do watch TV. Reducing Nazi violence to "movie" violence is absurd.

if you do then you must have violent tendancies and secretly want to kill people.

Everybody has violent tendencies - I just choose not to act on them.
Going out and buy Nazi memorabilia - is acting on it.

Honestly your opinions make that much sense. Its like your blaming the guns for the crimes commited with them why don't you just join the uber left and have all guns outlawed and removed from everyone since people commit crimes with them.

I never blamed the gun - I am blaming the people; people who make a conscious choice to purchase a gun for the sake of association with Nazi ideology.

Here is an example - you hate your neighbor. And it is between you and your neighbor and it doesn't involve or affect me, UNLESS you hate your neighbor because of his race - then it becomes my problem, both with you and your ideology.

 

[been]

Will this thread ever die?

 

[caojyn]

Will this thread ever die?

I sure hope not, it's comic gold.

 

[Perplexed]

Great post. Thanks.

I'm not sure I understand your response here - are you agreeing with Brandon's post? He said enjoys owning a K98k that happens to have Waffenampt markings on one side, and Israeli markings on the other side. If you're fine with this, wouldn't you be contradicting your earlier statement about not buying a K98k simply because it has Nazi markings on it? Or do the Israeli markings make it OK even though it was originally a Nazi weapon and is still marked thus?

 

[MoBoost]

If you're fine with this, wouldn't you be contradicting your earlier statement about not buying a K98k simply because it has Nazi markings on it?

My point was not paying premium because it has Nazi markings on it - I hate to repeat myself, but you can buy 2 or 3 mausers of same or BETTER quality just because they are missing the Nazi "charms." Look at the said Israeli - deeper history and rarer - still cheaper than run of the mill K98k. So, no, I don't have a problem with it.

Or do the Israeli markings make it OK even though it was originally a Nazi weapon and is still marked thus?

Just like Finn Mosin ... except those demand higher price than Soviet Mosins (well deserved).

 

[AKguy1985]

Will this thread ever die?

doubt it.