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Tanis143

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i need some definitions first:

>logic
>conspiracy
>theory

in what way, given that it's a known fact the police AND government have both ALREADY BEEN CAUGHT LYING ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THIS EVENT, would you use your "logic" to determine you know enough to prevent anything you assume from being a "theory" that does NOT involve multiple people purposefully withholding information and/or altering it to push a certain narrative?

like, you realize literally EVERYTHING is a "conspiracy" and it's just a term with marxist origins made up to discredit anyone who dared to question authority under the iron curtain?

So you are saying there is no other way possible for this kid to have the money to purchase these items so the government funded him to create a false flag event, right? This right here is the purest definition of a conspiracy theory. You take one broad fact (the kid bought the firearms), insert some wild claim (no way he could have paid for it himself) and make the jump to the government is behind it.

There are many ways this kid could have paid for it himself, even if he was unemployed at the time. You do not have the facts as to how much money he had in the bank or if he had any credit cards.

Do I think the government might have a hand in some of these events? I won't say its impossible. However, until facts are discovered that can push that idea from improbable to probable, I will not put any merit into wild conspiracy theories.
 

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I have a cousin that stole somebody’s credit card info, probably at work ringing somebody up, and racked up $10k in debt on it. Didn’t get in ANY trouble, didn’t have to pay ANY of it back. That’s just the one we know about.

My guess is something like that. I don’t know if any creditors that are gonna give an 18 year old that high a credit limit.

If the shooter lived at home, probably could have saved the money as well from their part time job over a few months.

Just two thoughts, though I wouldn’t necessarily be shocked anymore if it was some kind of set up deal. Who knows what kind of underworld forums the shooter participated in. I’m sure this was on their mind for a LONG time before it happened. I mean, you can get a cheap AR just about anywhere. Clearly Ramos did some research. I’m sure the report will come out and say “FBI had signs of this happening.” Well no ****.
 

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So you are saying there is no other way possible for this kid to have the money to purchase these items so the government funded him to create a false flag event, right? This right here is the purest definition of a conspiracy theory. You take one broad fact (the kid bought the firearms), insert some wild claim (no way he could have paid for it himself) and make the jump to the government is behind it.

There are many ways this kid could have paid for it himself, even if he was unemployed at the time. You do not have the facts as to how much money he had in the bank or if he had any credit cards.

Do I think the government might have a hand in some of these events? I won't say its impossible. However, until facts are discovered that can push that idea from improbable to probable, I will not put any merit into wild conspiracy theories.
>so you are saying there is no other way possible

well since i didn't say that, no. in fact that's not what i'm saying.

>however, until facts are discovered

and this is the crutch; at one point does an effort to prevent certain facts from being "discovered" does something qualify as whatever a "conspiracy" is?

"conspiracy" doesn't mean it's a false flag that the government themselves went in or even local police went in and shot children.

"conspiracy" doesn't mean it's a concerted effort to strip away rights, beit firearms or privacy.

"conspiracy" just means that the people who know agree to withhold or purposefully omit certain "facts" to form a narrative and/or shape public opinion. this is done thru things like media manipulation, intentional lying, lies by omission, or even misreporting of things and never really caring to correct.

this has already occurred. happened again in tulsa; it happens in every 'mass shooting' it happens every day. you commit "conspiracy" all the time; we all do.

"conspiracy" doesn't mean anything. it's human nature. police agencies don't report certain events. hospitals don't report certain events. commit suicide in a hospital parking lot and see if it's reported. is that a "conspiracy" or just media manipulation?
 

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you laugh, but really, you have to admit there is a group of individuals who are "releasing" information to the media, then it's getting filtered again by what to report editorially, you now have several layers of filtering on the information.

not saying good or bad; you know it's true. if you listen to police scanners, you will know this is true. anyone who has ever worked as a leo or in a hospital knows this is true. probably more than 50% of this board has experienced something that wasn't directly reported; either for purpose or because it merely wasn't deemed relevant or "media-worthy".

by definition of the word, with no connotations, that's a conspiracy. every time "reporting" is involved on something. every time there is a "press conference" wherein some information is given and some is withheld. it doesn't have to be some "tin foil" sinister plot.

we know the shooter in texas has all sorts of contact with federal agents. i mean it's the pattern.
 

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I am starting to suspect medical marijuana is bringing out all the nut cases until recently, the majority of the pot in America was not much stronger than smoking grape vines, the majority of pot being produced today can really screw with a person's reasoning and reality.
 

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I am starting to suspect medical marijuana is bringing out all the nut cases until recently, the majority of the pot in America was not much stronger than smoking grape vines, the majority of pot being produced today can really screw with a person's reasoning and reality.
I believe that psychiatric drug interactions and side effects, 5G microwave radiation, propaganda and subliminal messaging on phone aps like Tik Tok and game platforms is more likely
I know too many folks who have used cannabis for years with no ill effects and improved their pain management and cancer and other health battles
 

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