I think the part about the suffering being His plan and not questioning that.
If God is omnipotent and omniscient then a mere mortal questioning things shouldn't pose much of a problem for Him.
If God is omnipotent and omniscient then a mere mortal questioning things shouldn't pose much of a problem for Him.
I don't like the term assisted suicide. But, setting that aside, I think it's a personal choice and I wouldn't judge anyone either way. If a person has the cognitive power to understand the situation, I say let them choose.
Probably also wise to be smart about it so that some overzealous DA type doesn't cause problems for anyone still here.
Probably also wise to be smart about it so that some overzealous DA type doesn't cause problems for anyone still here.
Not at all.
The insinuation was that one will be forgiven for killing themself because God is forgiving. Following this logic, is Hitler in Hell or was he also forgiven?
Do individual people get to decide what is a forgivable offense? Killing yourself is forgivable, kill hundreds of millions not forgivable. How about killing 10?
I’m just trying to understand the position of Rick and others.
I'm going to let Ted's omnipotent and omniscient God look into their hearts and sort it out.
stage 4 cancer eating my esophagus and trachea spread to lungs , liver, tail bone and cervical spine and brain
I found this somewhere on the web and it sums up my feelings. The quote is attributed to Epicurus.
It's going to piss off all the Christians here so good job opening the can of worms.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
My thoughts are that we do not know God’s ultimate plan and reasoning. You question why he would allow trials and suffering of one individual, but do you question the impact made on those witnessing the suffering?
My older sister was married to an abusive alcoholic and though I wish she hadn’t endured all the pain she experienced, my witnessing her suffering positively impacted my life and decisions I have made through the years, including the morals and disciplines I have passed onto my kids. I have posted on here several times about how one of my daughters speaks up and stands up for those less fortunate or challenged. The impacts she makes on their lives are immeasurable and far more impactful to those who witness her kindness. That might have never happened had I not witnessed my sister’s suffering.
Sure it is lol.... it's apples to oranges. At the very least slippery slope. I would imagine Hitler would not be in Heaven due to a laundry list of sin, not just murder. That's just instant logic though.
Sorry to hear that…
All things happen either from God or with his assent. God did not kill Job’s cattle and children, or give Job lepresy. He allowed those things to happen though to confirm Job in his faith, and to show Satan that Job was not faithful to God for materialistic reasons, which was Satans claim. Trials give us opportunities for penance and to merit grace.
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