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If only people had firearms, training, and the ability to assembled and communicate where ever their local communities and territories are being threatened…
That's the point. This is not a vigilante nation. We are a nation of laws and discipline. Our elected officials took an oath to protect us and are derelict in their job. Plus, in many states in the nation, and many cities in said states, duly sworn law enforcement agencies are deliberately ignoring the pleas of their communities to protect them.

Nobody wants a "Mad Max Road Warrior" scenario. We want, nay, we demand duly authorized officials to do their job.
 

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Being a nation ”with” laws is not the same as a nation of laws. The government has been breaking their own laws pretty consistently. Like someone said, “we have a legal system not a justice system.”
Exactly. Our current crisis stems from our Power Brokers not securing our borders. Criminals are swarming into the country wreaking havoc everywhere they land. Every POTUS in recent memory (except Trump) has applauded and facilitated the invasion. Both sides of Kongress has done the same. As has SCOTUS.

This has degenerated to a virtually impending and inevitable collapse of the Republic because we are a nation of laws with duly appointed enforcers of said laws.

This has degenerated into an inevitable collapse because we are not a banana republic. We are not a nation that depends upon vigilante law enforcement. That's why vigilantes have not stepped up.

When the time comes that the Republic depends upon vigilante justice to survive, the Republic has ceased to exist. Because the only way the Republic can endure is to revive our system of laws and jurisprudence.
 

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Exactly. Our current crisis stems from our Power Brokers not securing our borders. Criminals are swarming into the country wreaking havoc everywhere they land. Every POTUS in recent memory (except Trump) has applauded and facilitated the invasion. Both sides of Kongress has done the same. As has SCOTUS.

This has degenerated to a virtually impending and inevitable collapse of the Republic because we are a nation of laws with duly appointed enforcers of said laws.

This has degenerated into an inevitable collapse because we are not a banana republic. We are not a nation that depends upon vigilante law enforcement. That's why vigilantes have not stepped up.

When the time comes that the Republic depends upon vigilante justice to survive, the Republic has ceased to exist. Because the only way the Republic can endure is to revive our system of laws and jurisprudence.
Trump had no more power than any other President (past or present) to prevent illegal immigration into our country, though he did at least try. That power comes through laws and the enforcement of those laws by the Departments of State, Justice, Interior, and half a dozen other governmental agencies - all under the auspices of Congress. It's not the President nor his Administration (past or present) that is to blame for 'selling' our country out.
 
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They say our electrical grids are over stressed, that we are to expect food shortages, a shortage of health care providers/Doctors, national deficit is at an all-time high, potential of national default on our debts, veterans living on the streets and we still support any and all illegals quite well with our money even though many are seasoned criminals, perverts and low-lifes. Some aren't here for a better life and better jobs, they are here because the victims have more money than in their own country. And they want our guns?
Our national security as well as personal security is at risk and still they proceed with open borders. China couldn't have asked for a better president. He is the best they could buy.
 

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That's the point. This is not a vigilante nation. We are a nation of laws and discipline. Our elected officials took an oath to protect us and are derelict in their job. Plus, in many states in the nation, and many cities in said states, duly sworn law enforcement agencies are deliberately ignoring the pleas of their communities to protect them.

Nobody wants a "Mad Max Road Warrior" scenario. We want, nay, we demand duly authorized officials to do their job.

Agree 100%. These Democrats that are causing anarchy. They selectively enforce the law. They are violating their oath of office and acting in bad faith executing their duties and the law. They don’t hold criminals accountable and let them roam the streets. They themselves are criminals the way they conduct their elected office positions.
 

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Agree 100%. These Democrats that are causing anarchy. They selectively enforce the law. They are violating their oath of office and acting in bad faith executing their duties and the law. They don’t hold criminals accountable and let them roam the streets. They themselves are criminals the way they conduct their elected office positions.
Both sides of the aisle are equally guilty of violating their 'oath of office'. Politicians from both camps also regularly demonstrate that it is their individual political careers that are more important to them than the people they were elected to represent. And until all of us open our eyes to this truth, nothing will ever change.
 

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Both sides of the aisle are equally guilty of violating their 'oath of office'. Politicians from both camps also regularly demonstrate that it is their individual political careers that are more important to them than the people they were elected to represent. And until all of us open our eyes to this truth, nothing will ever change.

That is an overly simplistic view and not accurate. Sounds like one that doesn’t know what’s going on. In the early 2000s my eyes opened when I started getting interested in politics. I was blissfully blind back then. Once one’s eyes actually open and sees what’s going on nobody, and I mean nobody can say that they’re equally guilty. In general, yes some politicians are scum. The worst of the scum are called Democrats.

It doesn’t take much to go back and watch any of these Democrats that have reversed their positions, flipped flopped their values on old clips of YouTube videos. You will have a hard time finding any Republicans doing that.
 

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That is an overly simplistic view and not accurate. Sounds like one that doesn’t know what’s going on. In the early 2000s my eyes opened when I started getting interested in politics. I was blissfully blind back then. Once one’s eyes actually open and sees what’s going on nobody, and I mean nobody can say that they’re equally guilty. In general, yes some politicians are scum. The worst of the scum are called Democrats.

It doesn’t take much to go back and watch any of these Democrats that have reversed their positions, flipped flopped their values on old clips of YouTube videos. You will have a hard time finding any Republicans doing that.
Everyone has an opinion and mine still stands that the members of BOTH political parties have violated their 'oath of office' and members of BOTH political parties have pandered others to increase their own self-worth. This was the context in which the phrase "equally guilty" was used.

If you want to say that one political party had more members than the other political party that did these things then you are probably correct, but my comment was not about whether one party had more members than the other political party that was guilty of this. My comment about BOTH political parties, as a whole, being "equally guilty" in having less than stellar honesty and ethics.
 

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