"For Our White Friends Desiring to Be Allies"

[Dale00]

Good. We agree that socialist carpenters do/can exist.

Irrelevant. The author's point is that capitalism is inherently bad: An obvious falsehood. Her implication/assertion about capitalism is flat out incorrect.

 

[YukonGlocker]

Irrelevant. The author's point is that capitalism is inherently bad: An obvious falsehood. Her implication/assertion about capitalism is flat out incorrect.

I don't remember her arguments against capitalism, but both capitalism and socialism have strengths and weaknesses, and neither system *alone* is "good". Jesus was neither, so both sides weaken their arguments by trying to present Jesus as supporting one or the other.

 

[operator742]

So, no socialist carpenters exist? That's too easy, man...too easy.

Non that are willingly socialist.

 

[operator742]

So, is Tristanjay = YukonGlocker?? What other accounts are linked? Please do share. I'd be interested to know who's acting as a useful idiot and who really is one.

Why not just ban both, they are both liberals . How long do you think a conservative would last on a liberal website, before he would be banned for supposedly spreading hate.

 

[Dale00]

I don't remember her arguments against capitalism, but both capitalism and socialism have strengths and weaknesses, and neither system *alone* is "good". Jesus was neither, so both sides weaken their arguments by trying to present Jesus as supporting one or the other.

You are too "academic" in your outlook - it has distorted reality for you. Get out into the real world more often. A person who receives direct payment for goods and services from customers is a capitalist.

 

[rc508pir]

Sorry for the late reply, i work weekends.



I don't know if i 'deserve' **** from the government, the government represents all of us. It's a team effort.
Also, it's not like the VA because with the VA, the provider is owned and operated by the government. Medicare doesn't work that way.

The thing about all this is that most the folks who make up a lot of healthcare expenses are the people with serious recurring problems. for folks with congenital or chronic problems, it's not a matter of 'preparing for their own future'.

The funny thing is, because of the Emergency medical treatment act of 1986, hospitals have to accept patients regardless of ability to pay and absorb the costs. So, instead of getting much cheaper preventative care, they wait until it becomes an emergency and go to the hospital for something that would have been taken care of by a physician if they had the health insurance to afford it. This ends up costing a lot more money to treat and clogs up our emergency rooms.

In the end, you have to pay for their healthcare anyway. Ever wonder why the hospital costs in the U.S. are the highest in the world? ever wonder why aspirin is like 50 bucks in a hospital? Because they shift that cost onto the consumer. Do you suggest we should just refuse them unless they can pay, and let them die on the streets? I guess if it's slower and less visible it's acceptable.

It's all fine and dandy to blame people for not having health insurance, but at the end of the day we all have to pay for it anyway. It just costs even more and it costs lives, too.

You complain about not wanting to pay for someone elses healthcare, but it would actually end up costing you less than your premiums/copay does now.

Healthcare is a human right and a necessity, not a ****ing Obama phone.




Health care is NOT a RIGHT. You should have to pay for it just like everyone else. If I can pay for good healthcare then that's what I deserve. If you cant pay for your healthcare then you don't deserve to have ME pay for it.

 

[rc508pir]

How is someone poor, live in sec 8 house and on welfare going to pay, for single payer healthcare ?

Me and you are via taxation and Gov subsidies bruh

 

[YukonGlocker]

Why not just ban both, they are both liberals . How long do you think a conservative would last on a liberal website, before he would be banned for supposedly spreading hate.

Tristanjay is now a liberal. Classic. And ya'll wonder why saying that now has no meaning.

 

[YukonGlocker]

You are too "academic" in your outlook - it has distorted reality for you. Get out into the real world more often. A person who receives direct payment for goods and services from customers is a capitalist.

The "real world"...lol. My life experiences aren't any less real than your's are, but your judgment as such is telling.

 

[rc508pir]

All I can say is TJ is who he says he is, anything else will get me banned....again. It's bigger than you think.

Are you going to have to go into hiding for knowing too much??? LOL