Oklahoma "One Buck Bill"

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Correct! I have 1750 acres and don't allow dinks to be shot. If its not mature, it walks. Its impressive to pull up and see bucks that are fat, healthy, and my dinks are something most guys wouldn't have to think twice about shooting. We work for it to be this way and knowing that the neighbor is in cooperation and has the same mind set is 80% of the battle. There have been years I didn't shoot a buck, only does, because I didn't think they were mature enough to be harvested. This payed off in dividends the years after. I shot 2 over 160" this year and there are 3 more on that same piece of property in that class. One was taken by a poacher (who got caught thank you to the ODWC and the head and cape will be returned to us) but the other two will most likely get a hall pass this year and Ill just take a few does. I love the hunt, love the meat, but I've learned there is no reason for me to shoot an immature deer. Again, having said that, have I done it? Absolutely, many times, but I was educated on how much more fun it is when you have a property full of great deer vs a farm full of average deer.
Your in a very small percentage of deer hunters. By the way the ODWC shouldn't be returning a poached deer head to you, Just a FYI be careful what you post about that stuff. How are you going to kill a 170+ deer if you keep shooting 160" deer. You should have did the one buck rule on your own hunting property.
 

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I keep hearing people say that hunters need to kill more does, but in my research, I can’t find anywhere that there’s any biological proof. The only data the ODWC reports comes from harvest data and not actual deer numbers.
Are they doing any deer surveys by spotlighting, drones, or game cameras?
I would assume they might do some surveying on WMA’s, but in my opinion, that’s an artificial environment because the hunting is “controlled”.

Until someone from the ODWC comes out to study the actual deer numbers around my place, I’m going to continue to make the decision as to whether a doe needs to be killed or not. The deer numbers are still a fraction of what the were prior to the 2011-2013 drought, so right now, I don’t think it’s a “necessity” to kill any.
Depending on what I see on camera over the next few months, my opinion may change.
 

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How are you going to kill a 170+ deer if you keep shooting 160" deer. You should have did the one buck rule on your own hunting property.
I was thinking the same thing.
Correct! I have 1750 acres and don't allow dinks to be shot. If its not mature, it walks. Its impressive to pull up and see bucks that are fat, healthy, and my dinks are something most guys wouldn't have to think twice about shooting. We work for it to be this way and knowing that the neighbor is in cooperation and has the same mind set is 80% of the battle. There have been years I didn't shoot a buck, only does, because I didn't think they were mature enough to be harvested. This payed off in dividends the years after. I shot 2 over 160" this year and there are 3 more on that same piece of property in that class. One was taken by a poacher (who got caught thank you to the ODWC and the head and cape will be returned to us) but the other two will most likely get a hall pass this year and Ill just take a few does. I love the hunt, love the meat, but I've learned there is no reason for me to shoot an immature deer. Again, having said that, have I done it? Absolutely, many times, but I was educated on how much more fun it is when you have a property full of great deer vs a farm full of average deer.
I don’t disagree with you, but deer hunting isn’t a “one size fits all” sport.
 
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I keep hearing people say that hunters need to kill more does, but in my research, I can’t find anywhere that there’s any biological proof. The only data the ODWC reports comes from harvest data and not actual deer numbers.
Are they doing any deer surveys by spotlighting, drones, or game cameras?
I would assume they might do some surveying on WMA’s, but in my opinion, that’s an artificial environment because the hunting is “controlled”.

Until someone from the ODWC comes out to study the actual deer numbers around my place, I’m going to continue to make the decision as to whether a doe needs to be killed or not. The deer numbers are still a fraction of what the were prior to the 2011-2013 drought, so right now, I don’t think it’s a “necessity” to kill any.
Depending on what I see on camera over the next few months, my opinion may change.
How do you think an over population happens ? White tail numbers are higher now than they've been since licensed hunting has been in existence.

Good conservation practices oh and a declining number of licensed hunters .. Its common knowledge and fairly well documented this is the case.
 
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How do you think an over population happens ? White tail numbers are higher now than they've been since licensed hunting has been in existence.

Good conservation practices oh and a declining number of licensed hunters .. Its common knowledge and fairly well documented this is the case.
Depends on the part of the state. If you'll notice doe seasons aren't the same state wide. No matter the drought conditions in SE OK, there's still water, and still browse. In NW during a drought, there's little to no water, and little to no usual crops, still some browse. 2009-2011 years decimated our deer population. Now it's back above where it was in 2009. It's nothing to glass my wheat fields and see over 400 deer across a two mile stretch. Move down the road a couple of miles and repeat on the neighbors wheat and so on.
 

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If I ever sell, it’s either going to be for a totally ridiculous price or because I’m done hunting. I’m 55 and think I have a few more years before I’m ready to quit…unless you’re offering me ridiculous money.🤣
$1 Bob. You said ridiculous money...
 


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