Oklahoma "One Buck Bill"

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Depends on the part of the state. If you'll notice doe seasons aren't the same state wide. No matter the drought conditions in SE OK, there's still water, and still browse. In NW during a drought, there's little to no water, and little to no usual crops, still some browse. 2009-2011 years decimated our deer population. Now it's back above where it was in 2009. It's nothing to glass my wheat fields and see over 400 deer across a two mile stretch. Move down the road a couple of miles and repeat on the neighbors wheat and so on.
I don’t think it’s recovered to that extent where I’m at, because the deer don’t have the groceries like they do around your places. The green field our mutual friend plants every year beside my north easement entrance used to have over a hundred deer a night on it, but I haven’t seen more than 25 or 30 at one time recently. That’s still a lot of deer but not like it used to be. My neighbor claims to have seen as many as 50, but he’s lied to me more than once.
 

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They made the change in 2024 according to ODWC

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I purchased my lifetime hunting license in December of’79. For several years after that the wildlife department would mail a packet out to lifetime license holders and it included all of your deer and turkey tags plus all the necessary tags and paperwork to trap fur bearers. I believe the change last year was to remove the cost of the fur bearer’s and add it into the new price for a hunting license

Shoot whatever makes you happy!!!
 

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Correct! I have 1750 acres and don't allow dinks to be shot. If its not mature, it walks. Its impressive to pull up and see bucks that are fat, healthy, and my dinks are something most guys wouldn't have to think twice about shooting. We work for it to be this way and knowing that the neighbor is in cooperation and has the same mind set is 80% of the battle. There have been years I didn't shoot a buck, only does, because I didn't think they were mature enough to be harvested. This payed off in dividends the years after. I shot 2 over 160" this year and there are 3 more on that same piece of property in that class. One was taken by a poacher (who got caught thank you to the ODWC and the head and cape will be returned to us) but the other two will most likely get a hall pass this year and Ill just take a few does. I love the hunt, love the meat, but I've learned there is no reason for me to shoot an immature deer. Again, having said that, have I done it? Absolutely, many times, but I was educated on how much more fun it is when you have a property full of great deer vs a farm full of average deer.
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Being the devil's advocate. Say I choose to shoot nothing but small bucks on my property because I love shooting forks. Wouldn't that in theory leave all the big bucks that I am not shooting to get bigger? I don't see the logic of saying shooting little bucks ruins the trophy buck potential. Say I have 1000 acres and shoot two forks a year, that leaves the big uns. I get the little ones are the big ones down the line but why is that needed if you already have years of big ones that don't get shot?

What am I missing? Unless a property is over hunted in general, I think it is a lot to do about nothing. Heck, if someone only wants to shoot fawns, forks or super monsters the more power to them. I could not care less.
 

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Being the devil's advocate. Say I choose to shoot nothing but small bucks on my property because I love shooting forks. Wouldn't that in theory leave all the big bucks that I am not shooting to get bigger? I don't see the logic of saying shooting little bucks ruins the trophy buck potential. Say I have 1000 acres and shoot two forks a year, that leaves the big uns. I get the little ones are the big ones down the line but why is that needed if you already have years of big ones that don't get shot?

What am I missing? Unless a property is over hunted in general, I think it is a lot to do about nothing. Heck, if someone only wants to shoot fawns, forks or super monsters the more power to them. I could not care less.
If it just you shooting 2 bucks on 1000 acres, no, it shouldn’t have a noticeable affect on the herd, but if there’s 10 people hunting that same 1000 acres doing the same as you, it’s going to screw up your age structure. At that point, those 10 people will get on FB or a message board and complain because all they see is 18 month old bucks.🤣
 

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Made sense to me. I haven’t shot a buck in two years but over here I can pass on a decent 8 “because he will be a big ten next year” and like clockwork theres a big boom within the next hour.
This year I seen so many more small bucks than does it gave me hope for the coming years but if I wanted to shoot one of the small eights so I can enjoy some chili what’s it matter to anyone but me?
I think this is getting turned into an ethical hunter/heard management thing when none of that was mentioned in the original article, just another politician that wants to tell me how to live and I say puh puh puh pizz off with that and keep on pushing. It’s already been said there is no one answer for management. There are tons of turkey just across the road from me but never on my place. Should they have to skip on a turkey so that maybe they cross the road? C’mon now, never realized so many on here would be in favor of bigger government.
 
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Made sense to me. I haven’t shot a buck in two years but over here I can pass on a decent 8 “because he will be a big ten next year” and like clockwork theres a big boom within the next hour.
This year I seen so many more small bucks than does it gave me hope for the coming years but if I wanted to shoot one of the small eights so I can enjoy some chili what’s it matter to anyone but me?
I think this is getting turned into an ethical hunter/heard management thing when none of that was mentioned in the original article, just another politician that wants to tell me how to live and I say puh puh puh pizz off with that and keep on pushing. It’s already been said there is no one answer for management. There are tons of turkey just across the road from me but never on my place. Should they have to skip on a turkey so that maybe they cross the road? C’mon now, never realized so many on here would be in favor of bigger government.
I’ve learned from many years on FB and hunting message boards that when discussions start talking about “ethics” I bow out, because it’s fixing to be chitshow in short order. However, the one buck proposal SHOULD BE directly related to herd management, and if it’s not, it’s a bullchit idea.
 

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Is he seriously THAT territorial? Is he someone who tries to intimidate other hunters to stay away from property surrounding where he hunts or something?
No, not really. I've talked to Jeff enough to know he loves deer hunting and wants everyone to enjoy it as well. I used to hunt near his place and we've showed each other pics of the same monster deer on occasion. He tells me good luck.
 


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