Ha! love all the replies and they are apprciated. I still have no idea but those that said wagon/buggy axle seem like the most plausible thing. But then I go back to what the hell would someone be thinking to take the time to drive that SOB that far into the ground? Annnnnnd, then I go back to what a poster said about doing it jsut to keep me awake at night. Well, mission accomplished and well done to jackwagon that drove this into the ground. All I need to do now is just not hit it with my tractor, mower or atv.