Ya I had read 100 million, I was just giving some people something to think about.
Ya I had read 100 million, I was just giving some people something to think about.
I'd have to go with Paul Mausers action too. From the invasion of Cuba through the Boer wars up to the end of WWII Mauser rifles have always been in play. I'll bet the numbers killed may be a little higher for the Mauser than the AK.
Yeah but any chump dictator can give millions of troops any old rifle and rack up a huge kill count on unarmed civilians or the French.
A more pertinent question would be which rifle has killed more enemy soldiers "per capita," or which one has the highest kill per rounds fired ratio.
I personally just go with the rifle that I find it easiest to make good hits at all distances from field positions with... which would be the M1A. There is some cerain quality that some rifles have that I don't know what to call other than "shootability"... some rifles just feel so RIGHT. This might boil down to personal preference. Anyway, whatever it is, the M1 and M1A certainly have it.
A more pertinent question would be which rifle has killed more enemy soldiers "per capita," or which one has the highest kill per rounds fired ratio.
I personally just go with the rifle that I find it easiest to make good hits at all distances from field positions with... which would be the M1A. There is some cerain quality that some rifles have that I don't know what to call other than "shootability"... some rifles just feel so RIGHT. This might boil down to personal preference. Anyway, whatever it is, the M1 and M1A certainly have it.
Although not on the list, How about the Browning M2 .50 caliber with an Unertl scope used by Carlos Hathcock in Vietnam. It has an excellent "kills per round ratio".
I believe the Mauser is still respected as an accurate and dependable rifle platform; the M14 has killed a fraction of the enemy combatants as the K98. The "unarmed civilians or the French" comment is disingenuous; ask the British Expeditionary Forces, or count the graves in Russia. If not for poor decisions and poor weather, Moscow would be in the heart of "Lebensraum". I guess we could say the same for the M16/M4; racking up kills on goat herders and villagers can be done by any old rogue government. But that comment would be just as wrong.
"Feeling right" is personal preference. That's about the biggest advantage to me for the M14/M1A; it feels like every other rifle or shotgun I've shouldered from childhood. It's a great rifle, but comparing it to the K98 is apples and oranges. Pretty big leap in technology over time.
Hathcock's primary rifle was a Remington 700 in 308.
Seems like I remember reading that he used a Winchester Mod70 in 30-06.
Yeah,that's correct but he did develop a M2 that fired semi that steelehorse was talking about.
Yep, multiple kills with that setup, the most famous being the boy on the bicycle with all the AKs. Extremely accurate and obviously deadly. In fact, with his custom M2 sniper, he held the record for the longest combat kill until 2002.
Yep, multiple kills with that setup, the most famous being the boy on the bicycle with all the AKs. Extremely accurate and obviously deadly. In fact, with his custom M2 sniper, he held the record for the longest combat kill until 2002.
He was credited with 90+ comfirmed kills,most with the Model 70.
