She signed it, fellas

[TerryMiller]

Regarding the issue of hollering "Fire" in a theatre, even if there is the caveat of "causing harm," there is still a restriction. One does not have an "unlimited right" to their speech. To a number of participants here on the OSA forums, they have the idea that the 2A gives unlimited rights to the possession, and carrying, of firearms. To limit the argument for restrictions that it must cause harm seems to me to be limiting other possibilities that a court or legislative body may come up with.

I don't necessarily agree that we should have too many limitations to our rights, but I will still contend that there are individuals out there with very little common sense that own firearms and want absolutely NO restrictions to what they percieve as a right. Thus, having some limitations as to who may carry openly (or concealed) seems reasonable.

 

[Jack T.]

Regarding the issue of hollering "Fire" in a theatre, even if there is the caveat of "causing harm," there is still a restriction. One does not have an "unlimited right" to their speech. To a number of participants here on the OSA forums, they have the idea that the 2A gives unlimited rights to the possession, and carrying, of firearms. To limit the argument for restrictions that it must cause harm seems to me to be limiting other possibilities that a court or legislative body may come up with.

I don't necessarily agree that we should have too many limitations to our rights, but I will still contend that there are individuals out there with very little common sense that own firearms and want absolutely NO restrictions to what they percieve as a right. Thus, having some limitations as to who may carry openly (or concealed) seems reasonable.

Are you saying that the act of carrying a firearm causes, or is intended to cause, *physical* harm? Because that's the argument you are making in regards to yelling Fire. The "crime" is the harm caused, not the method by which it was caused. If I yell fire in a theatre and people get harmed, then I am tried based on the harm caused, not the act of yelling Fire. Same thing with carrying a firearm. . .if I shoot somebody unlawfully with that firearm, I am charged with whatever, and the charge is the same whether I used a gun or a ball bat.

 

[TerryMiller]

Are you saying that the act of carrying a firearm causes, or is intended to cause, *physical* harm? Because that's the argument you are making in regards to yelling Fire. The "crime" is the harm caused, not the method by which it was caused. If I yell fire in a theatre and people get harmed, then I am tried based on the harm caused, not the act of yelling Fire. Same thing with carrying a firearm. . .if I shoot somebody unlawfully with that firearm, I am charged with whatever, and the charge is the same whether I used a gun or a ball bat.

Perhaps I didn't state that clearly, or perhaps you are reading in something I didn't intend to imply. If one goes to the theatre, it is with the knowledge that one is not free to just say (or holler) what they wish. It would basically be the same with a weapon. If one wants to own and carry a firearm, they generally know that there are restrictions on the carrying or use of that firearm.

 

[Dave70968]

We all understand that the restrictions exist, Terry. We're just saying they shouldn't.

 

[rlongnt]

I'll post in this thread too. Gov Fallin kept her word and thats good in my book.

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I will still CCW most of the time but I like! Thanks

 

[Honey Badger]

I'll post in this thread too. Gov Fallin kept her word and thats good in my book.

I agree. Cudos for the Governor of our great state.

 

[flatwins]

I agree. Cudos for the Governor of our great state.

Ditto here. Plus she's a fellow OSU alum so I'm down wid it.

 

[jman253]

We are all discussing this at my job but I think there isnt much difference concealed or not. You have the right to carry in Oklahoma, I dont care if its open or concealed.

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

I am trying to decide between Safariland and SERPA and Level II and Level III.

I'll probably look for something by Looper Leather.

Woody

 

[Pulp]

We should probably all wear rubber boots on November 1st, what with all the blood and gore we're going to encounter that day !

I get kinda squeamish when I see stuff like that, so I reckon I'll just stay at home and watch it on the news.

Actually, I'm kinda thinking that if Nov 1 is an off day from work, I might just put on my Cowboy Action duds, strap a Colts Walker on each hip and look cool while staggering around the Idabel WalMart under the extra 10 pounds on my waist.