Simple Question. Will you vote for Trump?

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I haven't heard his plan, but we could sure use a change in direction regarding trade. The last few presidents have been working for some country other than the USA, I believe.

I think your analysis is pretty much correct. Manufacturing is leaving the country in hoards, while past Presidents on both sides of the spectrum believe in the one world fantasy.

We didn't get to be the greatest country in history by riding on the coat tails and skirts of third world shat hole countries. We got that way through manufacturing.
Imagine if we got into another world war, and had to rebuild the military infrastructure that is at its lowest level in generations. All of the car and heavy equipment factory's that retooled to build tanks, cannons and ships are closed, and empty buildings sit there now. The majority of our steel mills are over seas in foreign countries. Tire manufacturers are overseas for the most part. We buy toyo and hanook tires now for a large part of that market.

Trump promises to bring that manufacturing back by several methods, notably by fair trade and tariffs, along without being beholden to PAC's, political donors, and lobbyist which are the real people that have controlled this country for the last few presidencies.

The politicians keep screaming that the middle class is in trouble and they want to help. Its a shallow chant, because there is nothing they can do to improve the middle class without bring back manufacturing jobs which is where the middle class lives and thrives.

Frankly at this point in the game if he had a D after his name, I'd still vote for him.
 

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I haven't looked for it, but there is supposed to be a poll out there saying 20% of blue collar democrats are leaning toward trump because they are union workers and trump is promising to bring back manufacturing.

I had seen the poll forget where it was at though.

I haven't heard his plan, but we could sure use a change in direction regarding trade. The last few presidents have been working for some country other than the USA, I believe.

Fair trade would be nice. One thing about us and trading is look at china they became a world power potentionally overtaking us ( I would not want to fight a war against them) and our companies funded it.
 

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Much of what Trump says and does reminds me of another populist candidate although at the state level. While I was still living in Minnesota Jesse Ventura said all the right things to get enough PO'd people to show up & vote, got himself elected governor as an independent, than focused on his own agenda (e.g. Eliminating ban on studded snowmobile tracks - for real) for 4 useless years. I don't know what Trump could or would do but there's always enough other politicians to continue to stick it to the American people. Term limits are one step to begin limiting the abuse of power and rampant corruption, but only a start.
 

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I haven't looked for it, but there is supposed to be a poll out there saying 20% of blue collar democrats are leaning toward trump because they are union workers and trump is promising to bring back manufacturing.



The irony is that many of those manufacturing jobs will likely be filled by Hispanic immigrants. Americans want to sell insurance and push paper.
 

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Not when we get wages back in check so the white americans can afford to pay the bills with that manufacturing job.

This.

Our wages are so out of whack it's ridiculous. This is something I'm not sure I agree with Trump on. I think he said "people already make too much." No way that's true... Unless you're a CEO. The growth of executive pay over the years compared to the average employee are so out of tune with each other it's ridiculous. So, this may be an issue Trump and myself disagree on but I still think he's the best man for the job. My priority is non-establishment over establishment. After that, it comes down to the issues.
 

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This.

Our wages are so out of whack it's ridiculous. This is something I'm not sure I agree with Trump on. I think he said "people already make too much." No way that's true... Unless you're a CEO. The growth of executive pay over the years compared to the average employee are so out of tune with each other it's ridiculous. So, this may be an issue Trump and myself disagree on but I still think he's the best man for the job. My priority is non-establishment over establishment. After that, it comes down to the issues.
Trump can't control wages but if we get manufacturing back, there will be a natural adjusting of wages for those competing to maintain good educated/skilled workers and the unskill Ed d immigrant will not be in that mix. It pays less today to roof a house than it did when I was doing it in summer between college semesters. Ridiculous!

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