That's not what he said. Not even close.
Three people turned away from Gathering Place after bringing firearms
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That's not what he said. Not even close.
I'm not sure what you're getting at. Lost me. but then, I'm tired, it's been a long day. Maybe I'll understand if I read it later.
i likely didn't phrase it well. Just pointing out that there are times when tax dollars are used for things that aren't 'strictly' public things. That we might be debating semantics and not actual distinctions. It might be a park in name but not in legal setup. It could just as easily be, legally, a private enterprise that is admitting people for free instead of charging them to enter.
And that private enterprise could be enjoying the same form of tax incentives/breaks/negotiated position that other businesses have agreed to with a city, just in a different form. (i.e. a city might give 'free water' to a private group like Big Splash if it wanted the revenue/jobs badly enough, but doing so might not immediately constitute a use of public funds that would make a location 'public').
Ok, I see what you mean now... my point was, though, they have been screaming it from the hilltops that this IS a public park, that they were DONATING it to the city, they are asking for more free services, that there have been MILLIONS in public funding and they want all the benefits of telling people it is a freebie they are giving away to the people of the State of Oklahoma (i.e., tax breaks, public sentiment and advertising for their foundation, etc.,) when in fact, that isn't true at ALL. It's disingenuous at best, in my opinion, and maybe worse. Is it illegal? I doubt it, but it certainly doesn't endear them to me.
In fact, I'd almost prefer at this point that they maintain it is private, as I can continue to carry whenever I'd like, concealed... but I have a feeling if it is adjudicated as a public park, they'll just go buy a few legislators and carve out another exemption like the scumwads did for the OKC and Tulsa State Fairs.
In fact, I'd almost prefer at this point that they maintain it is private, as I can continue to carry whenever I'd like, concealed... but I have a feeling if it is adjudicated as a public park, they'll just go buy a few legislators and carve out another exemption like the scumwads did for the OKC and Tulsa State Fairs.
It’s at least a little close to the absurdity of Tulsa remaking itself in the image of Oakland. Austin maybe. Oakland is laughable.
Our gun club in Ponca has a couple members on the board at ORA. They had their annual meeting last month and the past President that had caused so many issues is no longer in that office, with a new person taking the job.
During the meeting, they said they would remain neutral on further legislation about Constitutional Carry.
We shall see if that actually happens the next time it comes up.
What hogwash. I'd like to see a copy of that official "poll", as well as the political affiliation of those responding.
In a statement, the park's management said the no-gun policy comes from what members of the community wanted in terms of the park environment.
An informal poll we did, found most visitors support the concept.
Jerry Luce said, "The slightest bit of anger can precipitate tragedy. Without guns, tragedy probably would not happen. We would vent our emotions in some other way."
However, in a world with random, mass shootings, there are opinions to the contrary.
Adam Marshall said, "If something does happen, then I'm glad that they're there. 'Cause, if they weren't, you don't know how many lives are gone.
Members of which community? If you were a progressive Dem. who would you poll?
That's a trick question.
A really progressive Democrat would just make up the numbers...
Is that how they feel about police officers carrying firearms?
Because the numbers published in OK by the OSBI show permit holders are charged with crimes at a lesser rate than uniformed law enforcement officers. And that's without the cronyism so many complain about. Seems like an overall pretty level-headed and trustworthy group to me.
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